tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5463472772679876402.post6127096838885375897..comments2024-03-17T05:26:42.972-04:00Comments on Spencerblog: Drilling Democrats on OilSpencerbloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09091827187116268547noreply@blogger.comBlogger69125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5463472772679876402.post-59518205184194662332013-05-29T04:02:44.693-04:002013-05-29T04:02:44.693-04:00Hey! That’s a extremely nice post. I’m very certai...Hey! That’s a extremely nice post. I’m very certain I'll recommend it to my co-workers.When you publish extra posts please e mail them to me.<br /><br />My webpage ... <a href="http://techteamdispatch.com/elgg/blog/view/2806/helpful-tips-for-individuals-having-trouble-getting-pregnant" rel="nofollow">why am i not getting pregnant</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5463472772679876402.post-33052707319697498062008-06-19T12:28:00.000-04:002008-06-19T12:28:00.000-04:00I advocated for the death penalty and executions o...<I>I advocated for the death penalty and executions of Big Tobacco executives</I><BR/><BR/>Oh, that’s right. Cigs… guns… oil… I knew it was onea them. My bad. Lol… <BR/><BR/><I> Gee, it's funny how when I call for government run executions of these unrepentant, still-at-large mass-murders, Randal calls it "murder", but when it's people he doesn't like, it's "for security/safety".</I><BR/><BR/>Uh, yeah. That would be because you want to murder innocent people just because you personally don’t like their legal product. While uncivilized violent street thug animals that prey on innocent others should be permanently removed from our society and extinguished to protect the innocent and law abiding. And the vast majority of Americans agree with me, not the shrill dopey likes of Capitalism-hating and criminal-sympathizing you. <BR/><BR/>Are you seriously suggesting that we as a country start dealing the death penalty to folks who we just don’t like due to the product they sell? Really? Well, in that case… I have a strong dislike for the harmful Liberalism product you’re always trying to push on others. Hehehe… <BR/><BR/>And, let us not forget that much like military service is volunteer, so too is it one’s personal choice to smoke. <BR/><BR/>It is such displays that cause the rest of us to disregard your moronic views on any number of topics. Ya do it to yourself, DD! <BR/>[If any of Dishonest Dopey Dave Diano’s clients read here, I’d like to hear from them!]<BR/><BR/><BR/>Don’t listen to that dopey dullard Dave, S. The rest of us enjoy your posts. ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5463472772679876402.post-25699781435599295142008-06-19T08:05:00.000-04:002008-06-19T08:05:00.000-04:00poor diano, can't laugh. I'm guessing you lost you...poor diano, can't laugh. I'm guessing you lost your most recent inflatable friend. Here's a link for a possible <A HREF="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25209226" REL="nofollow"> replacement </A><BR/><BR/>Sure, most of those comments were in joking fashion, although the elephant-comment was more sarcasm. The (micro) bugs may be a feel good option, but I don't see millions of barrels coming our way from harvesting them.steve mcdonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06475435322052587508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5463472772679876402.post-12973798652317462032008-06-19T01:50:00.000-04:002008-06-19T01:50:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.David Dianohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00410583916244497235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5463472772679876402.post-12309787527044739482008-06-18T11:55:00.000-04:002008-06-18T11:55:00.000-04:00If I recall correctly, Dave once advocated here th...If I recall correctly, Dave once advocated here the murdering of Oil executives because he felt their product was harmful and they were forsaking people’s health for profit. Or something like this. <BR/>This is the sort of Lib dope you boys are arguing with. Lol…Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5463472772679876402.post-16615243144639014872008-06-18T11:53:00.001-04:002008-06-18T11:53:00.001-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.steve mcdonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06475435322052587508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5463472772679876402.post-16200451758737404602008-06-18T11:53:00.000-04:002008-06-18T11:53:00.000-04:00does this mean your bugs are polluting our environ...does this mean your bugs are polluting our environment? is their excrement killing off Caribou in the ANWR providence? Do the bugs have many rich Saudi Princes? is this a conspiracy by the far right to slowly pollute our environment? Should we tax the bigs handlers a windfall tax profit on droppings? To make any headway in our oil battles, I hope these bugs are dropping elephant-sized loafs...steve mcdonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06475435322052587508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5463472772679876402.post-52387262617449892222008-06-18T11:36:00.001-04:002008-06-18T11:36:00.001-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.David Dianohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00410583916244497235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5463472772679876402.post-32443246929021065022008-06-18T11:36:00.000-04:002008-06-18T11:36:00.000-04:00Steve,You are correct. The profit margin by Coca C...Steve,<BR/><BR/>You are correct. The profit margin by Coca Cola and Pepsi are both higher than Exxon, BP, Chevron, etc. That's not the argument though to the anti-oil people. The argument is Exxon has become "too large" of a company and therefore should pay the price.<BR/><BR/>The price for hiring all American citizens (unlike our farmers we alwasy jump to help) and giving them great benefits along with above average industry raises is you should be taxed more!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5463472772679876402.post-54083341117860303932008-06-18T09:02:00.000-04:002008-06-18T09:02:00.000-04:00Diano, we're already getting railroaded... And how...Diano, we're already getting railroaded... <BR/><BR/>And how on earth do you expect a windfall tax on 10% profits to benefit us in relieving gas prices? They'll be passed on to us as we figure out how to get our heads out of our asses. Let's fix the prices by going backwards. I hear Coca Cola has a higher margin than these companies, should be extend this tax to other industries? <BR/><BR/>Sure, strengthen the dollar, but also, increase the supply. Why you blinded liberals can't come to the table for common sense I'll never figure out...<BR/><BR/>I'm thrilled the President is going to speak on off-shore drilling today. WELL OVERDUE.steve mcdonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06475435322052587508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5463472772679876402.post-17605153763742138972008-06-18T03:40:00.000-04:002008-06-18T03:40:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.David Dianohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00410583916244497235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5463472772679876402.post-17358053067178702292008-06-17T22:38:00.000-04:002008-06-17T22:38:00.000-04:00I personally feel David's line of work is worthles...<I>I personally feel David's line of work is worthless and him making over 15k is insane. Therefore, we should windfall profit tax him on all earnings over 15k.</I> <BR/><BR/>LMAO! Great comparative!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5463472772679876402.post-89183501404302942042008-06-17T22:10:00.000-04:002008-06-17T22:10:00.000-04:00Dave,Here's another example of your "politicking" ...Dave,<BR/><BR/>Here's another example of your "politicking" and not presenting facts:<BR/><BR/>9) I said crude prices were driving up inflation (not the other way around). Your observation: "And I feel that on Friday when the US showed the highest inflation rates in a year and prices of crude went down goes with that argument." is unlikely to be a correlation unless increased inflation is dropping demand by slowing the economy.<BR/><BR/>You first stated, "The quickest way to lower the gas prices (not alter supply/demand/production of oil/gas, just the PRICES at the pump) is to strengthen the dollar with sound fiscal policy."<BR/><BR/>Now your first comment is saying that strengthening the dollar (also known as decreasing inflation) will drive the price down at the pump.<BR/><BR/>Those are completely two different arguments. You can't back up your first statement with what you said in your rebut. <BR/><BR/>Also, my comment about prices and inflation does prove you incorrect. Your rebut says increase crude $ = increased inflation. I showed a situation where increased inflation = decreased crude $. The exact opposite of what you say will happen. How am I dumb again? It's not my fault you can't comprehend your own arguments, and as such, you can't comprehend mine. <BR/><BR/><BR/>And btw, my argument was to show that in the short term, inflation of the dollar and the price of crude don't show a correlation. Therefore your argument that inflation was the short term fix was false. There's no proven correlation. And if there was, then there's nothing we can do to fix it as we don't control the price of crude.<BR/><BR/>Man, I keep proving you wrong left and right. Bop-a-Lib.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5463472772679876402.post-39389685172304218262008-06-17T19:38:00.001-04:002008-06-17T19:38:00.001-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.David Dianohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00410583916244497235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5463472772679876402.post-91787419509279007362008-06-17T19:38:00.000-04:002008-06-17T19:38:00.000-04:00Steve,I fully agree with you on the future of vehi...Steve,<BR/><BR/>I fully agree with you on the future of vehicles. No where have I stated oil is the way of the future, just a way to subsidize us until we have the future technology (which to me, isn't available until I can walk/drive somewhere and buy the machine).<BR/><BR/>R,<BR/>Thank you for calling out David's low tactics. He calls into question your sexuality, ball size, and motives, then when you do the same you are a low-life or loser. It's like he almost feels as if he can call anyone anything and they aren't allowed to reply to his comment. I guess that's how he wins most of his discussions, say something and never let anyone respond.<BR/><BR/>Remember though, this is all a political argument. So Exxon making 40 billions in profits really doesn't prove they gouge. It just proves that certain people feel that is too much to make during a span of time. I personally feel David's line of work is worthless and him making over 15k is insane. Therefore, we should windfall profit tax him on all earnings over 15k. I don't have to prove this in any way, it's political!<BR/><BR/>Then again, David forgot capital gains taxes on the sale of a house don't account for ones income level. Shows you he probably uses HR Block or Turbo Tax to do his taxes but thinks he's a master of the tax code.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5463472772679876402.post-80323835995870656772008-06-17T13:31:00.000-04:002008-06-17T13:31:00.000-04:00Three legged tables don’t rock but they can tilt. ...Three legged tables don’t rock but they can tilt. <BR/><BR/>You should move the environmental concerns to last place on your list, S. For too long they have been calling the shots. And we now see where appeasing their weeping has led us. It’s time to tell them obstructionist anti-progress “progressives” to STFU. <BR/>The mooses and polar bears, fish and birds, turtles and frogs will be fine. And certainly they should not be permitted to stop progress.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5463472772679876402.post-85136688627703001042008-06-17T13:13:00.000-04:002008-06-17T13:13:00.000-04:00My feelings are that we should drill here to stabi...<I> My feelings are that we should drill here to stabilize the price where it is now. Hope inflationary issues cause the price to drop to low $3 in the coming 2-3 years. And then keep the price around $3 -$3.50 until we can have hyrdogen, solar, etc (basically anything else) car that can be run for a comprable of $3.5 or less a gallon (not really sure the product would be sold in gallons). Then we can slowly go to that product as the poor/middle class can afford to get a new vehicle. So at some point 20-30 (whatever) years down the road we are all driving a vehicle propelled by something else. </I><BR/><BR/>I must have missed this line in the arguements in this discussion. i knew I wasn't the only one thinking clearly!<BR/><BR/>There's three legs to this table: Energy Independence, Environmental Responsibility, and Economic Stability. We can't go in one path without affecting the others!steve mcdonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06475435322052587508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5463472772679876402.post-78128898569202294112008-06-17T13:11:00.000-04:002008-06-17T13:11:00.000-04:00Dishonest Dave has no room to talk about others cr...Dishonest Dave has no room to talk about others credentials or motives. <BR/><BR/>Notice how whenever DD is losing an argument he tries to distract from this by turning it personal by attacking his opponent and questioning their motives. He pulls this dishonest Lib trick in virtually every conversation. <BR/><BR/>Here, in this conversation, it does not matter one bit how or why Jonas knows so much about the oil industry. His name could be Mr. Exxon Mobil Sunoco and this would not change the truth of his words. …or the fact that he has slapped DD around here like his little bitch. Lol…Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5463472772679876402.post-50673624103712318362008-06-17T12:17:00.000-04:002008-06-17T12:17:00.000-04:00dave, bottom line, we're not bending over and taki...dave, bottom line, we're not bending over and taking one for the team for another decade or so.steve mcdonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06475435322052587508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5463472772679876402.post-66284755928688824442008-06-17T10:54:00.000-04:002008-06-17T10:54:00.000-04:00Dave,Profits exceeding fines? What really has any ...Dave,<BR/><BR/>Profits exceeding fines? What really has any oil company been fined for recently other than doing what the government has mandated them to do (MTBEin county lawsuits)? <BR/><BR/>Again Dave, how much of Exxons 40 billion profit is taxable by the US? That runs into the same politics as does Obama saying there are 47 million American's without health insurance.<BR/><BR/>What are you going to do, tax Exxon's profits all around the world? Why would they stay on the NYSE and not move its headquarters to Londo or Tokyo?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5463472772679876402.post-63928718774843697592008-06-17T10:49:00.000-04:002008-06-17T10:49:00.000-04:00Dave,There's three ways to disprove your arguments...Dave,<BR/><BR/>There's three ways to disprove your arguments on a monopoly:<BR/><BR/>1.<BR/>How's is this a political discussion from my end? All I've thrown out are arguments that are factual based by research and the gains in the oil industry. <BR/><BR/>It just shows how lame your argument is that the "next technology" for us to use is a political argument not based on what is factual best for our country or world. <BR/><BR/>Then again, it proves every source you've provided is quesitonable as to the correctness of the information provided which then completely shows my superior argument to yours as my facts haven't been called into question.<BR/><BR/>Then again, wikipedia calls politics, "consists of "social relations involving authority or power"[1] and refers to the regulation of a political unit, [2] and to the methods and tactics used to formulate and apply policy."<BR/><BR/>So basically you are agreeing that your whole basis on the oil industry (and what should be done in the future) isn't based off of facts or what is best, but by "methods and tactics used to formulate and apply policy."<BR/><BR/>Can you now apologize for questioning my intelligence as you've agreed that you haven't brought to the table a truthful and factually based argument for your points?<BR/><BR/>Everyone knows it's tougher to formulate an argument with facts than an argument based on what you feel like saying and whatever slander you can use.<BR/><BR/>NOW PT 2:<BR/><BR/><BR/>2. I could also bring the definition, "Likewise, a monopoly should be distinguished from a cartel (a form of oligopoly), in which several providers act together to coordinate services, prices or sale of goods."<BR/><BR/>Since gas prices by Exxon aren't greater than BP, Chevron, Luk Oil, etc. the pricing gouging you refer to by the industry, would be a cartel effect. Which would then prove my point again that it is an oligopoly.<BR/><BR/><BR/>So in effect, by you saying the industry gouges, you are saying there is a cartel which proves it is an oligopoly. <BR/><BR/>But if you want to argue that, then you are going back to a monopoly argument which then brings about the fact (your source agrees) that nothing you've provided is factually based as it is done for political gains. <BR/><BR/>PT 3:<BR/><BR/>Your def from wikipedia states, "in criticism of firms with large market share or lack of what is perceived as "fair" competition." What oil company is arguing there isn't fair competition? So where's the unfair competition? With the way people like you (and millions in the US) despise the oil companies, if ANYONE had an alternative that was almost the same price, you (and them) would switch to the competitor. You haven't because nobody has been able to make a product to compete. That's not the oil companies faults. Maybe someone could take your hint and use the engineers and scientists of the ethanol industry because that's exploding so fast these days (oh wait, no it's not - but that's just the facts of the industry, so you wouldn't include that in your argument).<BR/><BR/><BR/>EITHER WAY, it proves my point you haven't presented factual facts in this argument from the start. I showed this in my listing of falsities written by you, and you have no offically proven and agreed with it through your own sources.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>And Dave, you also show your reading comprehension with, "Also, from the oligopoly section of Wikipedia, "In some situations, the firms may collude to raise prices and restrict production in the same way as a monopoly."<BR/><BR/>How does that prove your monopoly point at all? All it proves is a monopoly is just like an oligopoly but with 1 main company in the industry and not a couple. All that proves is your misunderstanding of the word monopoly more.<BR/><BR/><BR/>And yes Dave, I'm an apologist for Fortune 100 companies. I do believe the companies that provide good pay and benefits for their employees are good for the US and its citizens. Somehow that is now an apologist?<BR/><BR/>On the same argument, aren't you an apologist for global warming and anti-oil? The only difference is you can't prove anything you say. <BR/><BR/>So basically everything you've called me so far in this discussion, I've shown you to be the same. Really good arguments Dave!<BR/><BR/>And see Dave, you again go for the low-blow because you can't defeat me with facts. That's usually the last ditch effort of the loser.<BR/><BR/>But then again, Exxon's CEO isn't in the top 10 pay of the US CEO's. Where your "political" argument for that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5463472772679876402.post-27575183278746236102008-06-17T10:42:00.000-04:002008-06-17T10:42:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.David Dianohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00410583916244497235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5463472772679876402.post-14680269248690194122008-06-17T08:31:00.000-04:002008-06-17T08:31:00.000-04:00I think jonas has a good knowledge about the indus...I think jonas has a good knowledge about the industry. I believe he has a stake somehow that isn't full shared here(see my past harassments) but we're beyond that now.<BR/><BR/>My point Dave is that you're too far on the left on this one. Where once our macroeconomic structure failed to factor in affects of pullution, we now have our structure halted by the environment. I'm not saying to screw Mother Nature over, I'm saying that for the good of the PEOPLE and our INDEPENDENCE from an imported commodity that can clearly cripple OUR daily way of life, we need our OWN resources to keep us afloat. And, unless gas prices somehow magically strabilize to $1.20/gal (Don't bet on it), the transportation industry will shift when the time's right and the technology's there. How so? The push for gasoline independence has been on since the beginning of the decande. Japan is ahead and our domestic products are making similar pushes (e.g. "From gas Friendly to Gas Free"). When the next wave becomes affordable, there will be a transition.steve mcdonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06475435322052587508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5463472772679876402.post-44811166652869158262008-06-17T01:48:00.000-04:002008-06-17T01:48:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.David Dianohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00410583916244497235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5463472772679876402.post-87346796844511376402008-06-16T21:30:00.000-04:002008-06-16T21:30:00.000-04:00i also have to agree with jonas: if the winning fo...i also have to agree with jonas: if the winning format of the next technology implements and becomes affordable, it's a guarantee that the market will gravitate in its direction. An industry will form around it when its ready. Just need the right tech to do so...steve mcdonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06475435322052587508noreply@blogger.com