Wednesday, August 6, 2008

Hamdan Guilty

A military jury has convicted bin Laden's driver of providing material support to terrorists.

Let the screeching begin.


Anonymous r said...

Ha! Suck it you Bush-hating, enemy-sympathizing LibDems!

August 6, 2008 at 3:26 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this is weird:
"cleared Hamdan of two charges of conspiracy"
"But he was found not guilty on three other counts alleging he knew that his work would be used for terrorism and that he provided surface-to-air missiles to al-Qaida."

money quotes:

"Under the military commission, Hamdan did not have all the rights normally accorded either by U.S. civilian or military courts. The judge allowed secret testimony and hearsay evidence. Hamdan was not judged by a jury of his peers and he received no Miranda warning about his rights.

Hamdan's attorneys said interrogations at the center of the government's case were tainted by coercive tactics, including sleep deprivation and solitary confinement.
All that is in contrast to the courts-martial used to prosecute American troops in Iraq and Vietnam, which accorded defendants more rights."

and of course:
"We can only trust that the next subjects ... will include cooks, tailors, and cobblers without whose support terrorist leaders would be left unfed, unclothed, and unshod, and therefore rendered incapable of planning or executing their attacks"

smells like a setback for the rule of law and fair trials.

August 7, 2008 at 1:32 AM 
Anonymous r said...

That's just the Lib anti-Bush, enemy-sympathizing slant, Anon. This guy got a much more fair trial than our boys get by our enemies.
Weep not for our enemies.

August 7, 2008 at 12:25 PM 
Blogger David Diano said...

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August 7, 2008 at 5:01 PM 
Blogger Spencerblog said...

Set back for rule of law?

Pretty lenient for a "kangeroo court."

August 7, 2008 at 11:39 PM 
Blogger Spencerblog said...

Furthermore, I doubt Hamdan would have gotten such a lenient sentence from 12 American jurors in a civilian court.

Hard to say if this speaks well or badly of the military court. But as one military man put in a recent letter to the WSJ, if our military courts are good enough to try our volunteer soldiers for their crimes, they're good enough to try illegal enemy combatants and terrorists.

August 8, 2008 at 12:32 AM 
Blogger David Diano said...

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August 8, 2008 at 1:44 AM 
Anonymous Bob said...

WOW!. After getting a lenient sentence, Hamdan thanked the jury for being fair. I guess RR is the one who has to "SUCK IT".

How will RR react to the sentence? Will he call the military jury un-American? Traitors? Bush Haters? Or worse yet (drum roll please)//////LIB-DEMS?

Stay tuned folks. This should be interesting. Or at the least, entertaining.

August 8, 2008 at 9:41 AM 
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August 8, 2008 at 10:28 AM 
Anonymous r said...

Try not to be so giddy about America's sworn enemies getting off easy, traitors Dave and Bob.

Man, them petty hurt feelings persoanl dislike of Bush can cause guys to actually turn against their own country. How nuts is that.

August 8, 2008 at 10:54 AM 
Anonymous Bob said...


You will notice how RR comments on our remaks, but contributes nothing of substance. But then the light sentence is probably part of that plan he was talking about. Letting the liberals take control for the next four years to remind everyone of how terrible the Lib-Dems are. Do you think RR can answer these questions? Did the jury stab their fellow soldiers in the back? Would he spit in their faces for handing down a light sentence? Will he ever answer the questions I asked about Mary Tillman? Would he spit in her face? Was Pat Tillman stabbing fellow soldiers in the back by opposing the invasion of Iraq, and for his planned meeting with Noam Chomsky?
Will he still stand up for Bush if the Ron Suskind allegations are proven correct?

August 8, 2008 at 12:04 PM 
Blogger steve mcdonald said...

just promise us that if this guy shows up somewhere with a bomb strapped to his abdomen, you'll apologize for your remarks.

I really don't know how to feel about this one. On one hand, the Liberal Media (I do agree with randal)is very quick to point this one out to oppose Bush's plan while there will likely be other trials with lengthy sentences. On the other hand, dude was his driver.

Still, I have doubts he "didn't know". Sounds too convenient.

August 8, 2008 at 2:38 PM 
Blogger steve mcdonald said...

don't most mafia capo's start out as drivers for capo's?

August 8, 2008 at 2:41 PM 
Anonymous Bob said...


All I can tell you is that the jury was all military. They had access to all of the evidence.
Given the seriousness of the charges, I wouldn't second guess them. As for this guy strapping on a bomb and seeking revenge, that could be anyone who perceives that they have been mistreated or locked up without just cause.

August 8, 2008 at 3:58 PM 
Anonymous r said...

Is Traitor Bob blaming Bush again for terrorism?
This guy was found guilty, BB. So quitcherweeping. I know you hate mean old Bushie so much that you'd like to have seen him get off but get over it. And stop stabbing your son in the back by rooting for his battlefield oponents.

August 8, 2008 at 6:17 PM 
Anonymous Bob said...

The rantings of RR from the Spencerblog archives

RR On Kerry- That scumbag should have been shot upon his return to the states. Or better yet, fragged in the field.
On parents with sons in the military- Lib bumper sticker: "Have you stabbed your soldier son in the back today?"

RR On blacks- So you assume, DD, that the monkeys would blindly vote species the same way blacks blindly vote race? Hehehe…

RR On Obamas religion (and I thought a persons religion was a matter of choice) - Obama is a Muslim. Or since he’s the son of one he’s a half Muslim.

RR on blacks- That bad link was to a pic of a t-shirt which has a pic of Curious George eating a banana above the words “Obama 2008”. Lol…

RR on Iran- Israel should bomb Iran tomorrow, before it's too late. No sense pting it off.

RR on Iran and blacks- Iran is the drunken black guy standing in the street waving a gun around threatening his neighbors.

RR on blacks- They destroy what they are given and we rebuild it again. All the while they remain bitter ingrates.

RR on the mother of a dead soldier-I would never apologise to the likes of Cindy Sheehan. I would be much more inclined to spit in her filthy treasonous face

RR on the war dead- Still crying about those 4000 brave volunteers? Seems minor compared to the 60,000 lost in the Dem war of Vietnam.

RR on his lack of military service-I don’t have an excuse for not enlisting in the military. Nor do I need one. Besides, why would I be a soldier? We’ve already got guys who do that.

RR's patriotic stance on the war-Why are you Libs so upset, so overly emotional about this war, anyway? Has this war really negatively impacted you personally -really? Why does something so far away that isn’t impacting you directly in your day to day make you Libs so angry and upset?

August 8, 2008 at 6:39 PM 
Anonymous r said...

Boring Bob's depth:
"Wah! I hate Bush!"

August 9, 2008 at 12:06 AM 
Anonymous rr said...

Just because I'm a racist, a coward and an overly emotional bed-wetter, that doesn't make it okay for you to hate Bush.

August 9, 2008 at 12:30 PM 
Blogger steve mcdonald said...

bob, I'm not about to forgive the guy should something like that happen. Obviously, let's hope it never does, of course.

August 11, 2008 at 9:14 AM 
Anonymous r said...

Yeah, "hope", that a good plan with something so potentially dangerous.
Kinda like hanging our presidency on vague promisses of "change" from a radical Leftist maybe Muslim while we're at war with them.

August 11, 2008 at 11:00 AM 
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August 11, 2008 at 1:22 PM 
Anonymous Bob said...


No one said you had to forgive. I was just pointing out the obvious. If you lock someone up for a few years, and that person feels as though they haven't done any thing wrong, there's always the possibility that they will retaliate. That's just something we have to accept as reality.


Again RR confuses his love of W, with love of the country. He doesn't have a clue.

August 11, 2008 at 6:40 PM 
Anonymous r said...

If you lock someone up for a few years, and that person feels as though they haven't done any thing wrong, there's always the possibility that they will retaliate.

And we should not base policy on what our enemies might feel

August 11, 2008 at 9:58 PM 
Blogger David Diano said...

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August 11, 2008 at 11:49 PM 
Anonymous Bob said...


We're talking logic here. Let's not expect to much from RR.

August 12, 2008 at 10:18 AM 
Anonymous r said...

Nor do we make laws based on how criminals might feel about them.

It's funny how Feelings Libs can't even recognize logic if their feelings tell them otherwise. Lol...

August 12, 2008 at 10:58 AM 

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