Tuesday, September 16, 2008

Obama DID Support Bill Commanding Sex Ed for Kindergarteners

Byron York looks at the Obama claim that a McCain ad "lies" about Obama's support for comprehensive sex ed right down to kindergarteners.

Turns out the McCain ad is correct.

Read it all.


Anonymous r said...

Liberal liars lying about lying.

And this is the sort of person some want running our country??

September 16, 2008 at 12:01 PM 
Blogger steve mcdonald said...

electoral-vote.com - interesting, Pennsylvani's latest polls show a toss-up - I honestly didn't see that coming.

September 16, 2008 at 2:29 PM 
Blogger David Diano said...

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September 17, 2008 at 3:23 AM 
Blogger Spencerblog said...

Oh, that's easy, I find the WHOLE bill objectionable.

I don't think state legislatures should ORDER sex education in the public schools PERIOD. Individual school boards are generally competent to decide local curriculums, including sex ed.

As for the specifics of the Illinois bill - while it says "age appropriate" the definition of that is left up to whom? School boards, superintendents, individual teachers.

Allowing individual parents to opt their kid out of the program is a ruse.

Imagine pro-school prayer advocates saying students can opt out of a teacher led prayer. The left would go justifiably nuts.

The orginal bill ordered sex ed for 12th to 6th graders and was amended by its backers to include ALL students right down to kindergartners.

Is it fair to say, as the ad did, that Barack Obama wants to teach sex ed to kindergartners before the learn how to read? No.

Did Obama support a bill commanding sex ed for kindergartners. Yes.

Of course, lost because of the controversy, are the other very accurate claims in the ad that Obama's record on education is lousy.

September 17, 2008 at 9:37 AM 
Blogger David Diano said...

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September 17, 2008 at 10:56 AM 
Blogger steve mcdonald said...

OK diano, but to teach them "masturbation" in kindergarten? Nonsense. Have some morals or IL beyond saving?

September 17, 2008 at 11:17 AM 
Blogger Spencerblog said...

If Diano thinks that without an act of the Illinois state legislature that
"kids will have to live in ignorance about sex and reproduction," he is weirdly mistaken.

As Spencerblog explicitly said, such curriculums can and have been left up to local school boards to adopt and approve. Kids get educated in schools (and out) about sexual reproduction and life goes on.

"The key information for the K's was to prevent them becoming the victims of sexual predators."

Wrong. That may have been the intention of some but there is nothing, NADA, Zero, in the Bill 99 that mentions how kindergartners can defend themselves against "sexual predators."

Read the bill and the Byron York story linked to above. An advocate for the bill admits that the motivation for the law had little, if anything, to do with giving kindergartners the instruction necessary to protect themselves against child molesters.

"If you want to go back to young girls being barefoot and pregnant and an 19th century school system, then go right ahead with your objections. The rest of us in the 21st century will look back at you with pity."

This is nothing but silly, feminist-issued hyperbole.

And Obama supporters complain about having THEIR candidate's views misrepresented...

September 17, 2008 at 11:31 AM 
Anonymous r said...

I read the bill too and found nothing objectionable.

LMAO! This coming from the guy who regularly advocates things like gay education in schools and abortion on demand!
DDD is hardly a good barometer as to what is objectionable. I dare say that most Americans would find his radical views objectionable.

Kindergarten -5 years old- is too young to be exposing children to sex education. And it should not be up to some warped Liberal politician to decide for parents.

September 17, 2008 at 11:50 AM 
Blogger David Diano said...

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September 18, 2008 at 11:46 AM 
Anonymous r said...

...and failing.

Why would anyone even bother posting anything from the bizarrely Far Liberal Huffington Post?? Lol…

September 18, 2008 at 2:14 PM 

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