Besides we didn't say "weak," we said "not-so-strong."
But would it be good for America if our union were powerful enough to demand and get $40 billion in taxpayer bailout money for our struggling industry?
someone that joined the union without really wanting to
Being pressured into joining a union, often required to while unwilling, is yet another unAmerican problem with bully unions. This will only get worse when the LibDems enact Card Check.
Does this mean that the indistrial revolution has come full circle? Has Labor finally killed big business?
Yes. Very much so. Much as blacks have gone from oppressed to the agressors, so too Unions are now the agressors from which everyone needs protecting. Libs always, always, always push too far. Labor unions have all but destroyed America. That they are recieving this unflattering focus is great.
We are not asking taxpayers to pay for our salaries or health care benefits.
Yet Anon-iano seems to think WE should shoulder the burden of paying the health care benefits and high salaries of UAW workers and subsidize the failing business model of GM.
And if we are unwilling to do that we should be willing to give up our own bargained for salaries and benefits.
The fairness and logic of that escapes us. Perhaps it can be found in Das Kapital or Mad Magazine.
Spencer- It's you that's missing the point. The right-wingers are claiming that unions killed the auto industry and using it as a phony excuse to weaken unions in general. The failed business model in Detroit is not the fault of the current workers NOR of the retired workers collecting their hard earned pensions and benefits.
The newspaper industry IS hurting and on the decline. What "bargained for benefits and salaries" would YOU be willing to give up to help the Delco Times and the Journal Register?
Now, we'd love to hear Anon-iano's experience with leading strikes, protesting, picketing and otherwise, taking on The Man.
We vaguely recall his mentioning a sit-in he participated in back in college.
Then there was his brilliant suggestion about driving slower on I-95 around the airport to protest the FAA's flight re-configuration.
Oh yeah, and that other fabulous idea about holding up airport security lines by fumbling for his wallet.
This guy missed his calling. Big Labor needs a guy like him. A man of Big Ideas and brave enough to take on management. Hmmm, but not brave leave his name.
Oh yeah, he can't. He might to run for political office someday.
Do you think Anonymous-iano puts his hands over his eyes and screams "Unions Good" no matter the situation? Do you think it has something to do with the fact that most pledge their support and funds to Democratic candidates without enev considerign the issues?
Do you think Anonymous-iano puts his hands over his eyes and screams "Unions Good" no matter the situation?
Yes.
Do you think it has something to do with the fact that most pledge their support and funds to Democratic candidates without enev considerign the issues?
Unquestionably. Just as he blindly defends blacks, gays... and all other traditional Dem voters. That's what ya get from vicious partisans and it's one reason their predictable "arguments" mean, well, nothing.
Why yes, it is true, S. But why would you say that? This is still America (for the time being, anyway) and a hetero white male is still permitted to use words such as gay and black.
Tell me you haven't been sipping the Diano Kool Aid.
Nothing? Like keeping taxes down, the local economy rolling and most everyone employed?
Why, the Repubs run the county so well that no one feels the need to include a single Dem on County Council. Heck, things are so good that the Lying LibDems have to manufacture “issues” (Health Dept.) just to have something –anything- to attack them about come election season! Lol…
Spencerblog
ReplyDeleteYou belong to a union? Really? Have you EVER voted for a strike or crossed a picket line?
Do you believe in the concept of collective bargaining, or are you just someone that joined the union without really wanting to?
Yes. YES. No. Yes. Yes. Yes.
ReplyDeleteAnd we are currently a union rep.
So, you're an unwilling member that has never voted for a strike, and has crossed a picket line, yet you are a union rep.
ReplyDeleteYeah, I can see why it's a weak union.
Does this mean that the indistrial revolution has come full circle? Has Labor finally killed big business?
ReplyDeletewhat's worse, the UAW for making American cars unaffordable, or MLBPA for protecting players ability to use steriods?
ReplyDeleteOh, we don't think it's all our fault.
ReplyDeleteBesides we didn't say "weak," we said "not-so-strong."
But would it be good for America if our union were powerful enough to demand and get $40 billion in taxpayer bailout money for our struggling industry?
Good for us. Not so good for the taxpayers.
someone that joined the union without really wanting to
ReplyDeleteBeing pressured into joining a union, often required to while unwilling, is yet another unAmerican problem with bully unions. This will only get worse when the LibDems enact Card Check.
Does this mean that the indistrial revolution has come full circle? Has Labor finally killed big business?
Yes. Very much so. Much as blacks have gone from oppressed to the agressors, so too Unions are now the agressors from which everyone needs protecting.
Libs always, always, always push too far.
Labor unions have all but destroyed America. That they are recieving this unflattering focus is great.
Spencerblog-
ReplyDeleteMaybe you can give up your health care benefits or other perks.
Anon-iano misses the point again.
ReplyDeleteWe are not asking taxpayers to pay for our salaries or health care benefits.
Yet Anon-iano seems to think WE should shoulder the burden of paying the health care benefits and high salaries of UAW workers and subsidize the failing business model of GM.
And if we are unwilling to do that we should be willing to give up our own bargained for salaries and benefits.
The fairness and logic of that escapes us. Perhaps it can be found in Das Kapital or Mad Magazine.
Yeah, logic gets all sorts of out of whack, disjointed like that, when it's based on grasping Lib dishonesty.
ReplyDeleteSpencer-
ReplyDeleteIt's you that's missing the point. The right-wingers are claiming that unions killed the auto industry and using it as a phony excuse to weaken unions in general.
The failed business model in Detroit is not the fault of the current workers NOR of the retired workers collecting their hard earned pensions and benefits.
The newspaper industry IS hurting and on the decline. What "bargained for benefits and salaries" would YOU be willing to give up to help the Delco Times and the Journal Register?
Zero, especially if management is reading this.
ReplyDeleteNow, we'd love to hear Anon-iano's experience with leading strikes, protesting, picketing and otherwise, taking on The Man.
We vaguely recall his mentioning a sit-in he participated in back in college.
Then there was his brilliant suggestion about driving slower on I-95 around the airport to protest the FAA's flight re-configuration.
Oh yeah, and that other fabulous idea about holding up airport security lines by fumbling for his wallet.
This guy missed his calling. Big Labor needs a guy like him. A man of Big Ideas and brave enough to take on management. Hmmm, but not brave leave his name.
Oh yeah, he can't. He might to run for political office someday.
Anonymously, maybe.
Lol... Point for G.
ReplyDeleteMake that...
ReplyDeleteBut not brave enough to leave his name.
Still hasn't.
Do you think Anonymous-iano puts his hands over his eyes and screams "Unions Good" no matter the situation? Do you think it has something to do with the fact that most pledge their support and funds to Democratic candidates without enev considerign the issues?
ReplyDeleteDo you think Anonymous-iano puts his hands over his eyes and screams "Unions Good" no matter the situation?
ReplyDeleteYes.
Do you think it has something to do with the fact that most pledge their support and funds to Democratic candidates without enev considerign the issues?
Unquestionably. Just as he blindly defends blacks, gays... and all other traditional Dem voters. That's what ya get from vicious partisans and it's one reason their predictable "arguments" mean, well, nothing.
randal, is it true Superfresh refused to put your son's name on his birthday cake and that Wal-Mart did it did it anyway?
ReplyDeleteWhy yes, it is true, S. But why would you say that?
ReplyDeleteThis is still America (for the time being, anyway) and a hetero white male is still permitted to use words such as gay and black.
Tell me you haven't been sipping the Diano Kool Aid.
The Unions in Delaware County blindly give to the Republican party year after year even though the Republicans do nothing for them.
ReplyDeleteNothing? Like keeping taxes down, the local economy rolling and most everyone employed?
ReplyDeleteWhy, the Repubs run the county so well that no one feels the need to include a single Dem on County Council. Heck, things are so good that the Lying LibDems have to manufacture “issues” (Health Dept.) just to have something –anything- to attack them about come election season! Lol…