Tuesday, March 31, 2009

Change in Chester?

Chester Democrats are calling for "change" in next November's election.

Money Q from candidate Portia West.

“People are looking at the change that happened last year, when we voted in our first African-American president, and they are looking for more change on a county and city level.”

But Chester has had African-American mayors, Democrat and Republican, for years. And what would the Dems do that's so different than Republicans.

Maybe they would try to take over Harrah's, ala Obama's takeover of GM.

We suggest they start smaller. Something on the order of a AM-PM Mini-Mart and see how successful they are at running that.


Anonymous Bob said...

Gil - It sounds A LOT like you are saying that it doesn't matter which party for African-American mayors of Chester. And that African-Americans shouldn't run anything bigger than an mini-mart until they can prove they can handle it.
This sounds like something R would say.

March 31, 2009 at 10:51 AM 
Blogger Spencerblog said...

Actually, it was Portia who brought up the change an African American president is supposed to bring to the country.

And forget black or white. We would suggest that that no group of politicians should be taking over private businesses to run.

And "Bob," that sounds like something Anon-iano would say.

March 31, 2009 at 7:01 PM 
Anonymous Bob said...

Gil - Obama being African American wasn't the kind of change she was talking about. Obama won because of the change in campaign style and policies. His being African American is a point of pride for Portia and a sign of the country putting race aside to pick the best leader. That's a change.

"We"? There are key businesses and industries failing and bringing the country down with them. There not a private business if they go out of business. If they take my tax dollars, then the government should have some stake in running the place.

April 1, 2009 at 12:41 AM 
Blogger Spencerblog said...

Let's face it. It was white Americans who put race aside and voted for Obama believing him to be the post-partisan and post-racial candidate he presented himself to be.

Black voters, however, remain amazingly true to their race when it comes to voting.

There is a double-standard at work here: Black pride, good. White pride, bad. Both can work against the common good and can be, in the long run, debilitating to the very people who practice it.

By the way, your rationale for the government running "key" sectors of the U.S. economy is the same one currently being used by Hugo Chavez in Venezuela to take over the oil industry and the rest of the country's economy. How's that working out?

April 1, 2009 at 7:15 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Spencerblog, you say "Black voters, however, remain amazingly true to their race when it comes to voting." So please explain to me why many high profile blacks supported Hillary in the primary elections, and why Swan didn't get the black vote or support in Pa.

April 1, 2009 at 7:53 AM 
Anonymous Bob said...

Gil - "Let's face it. It was white Americans who put race aside and voted for Obama"

Sounds like: It was OTHER white Americans who put race aside.

I don't think you are a racist, but you have a lot of racially ignorant views about how blacks think and vote. It makes you sound foolish.

The Dems usually get 90% or more of the black vote.

April 1, 2009 at 10:19 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How do you explain Pellegi's election to Mayor of Chester, and then his defeat of Kirkland for the senate?

April 1, 2009 at 3:39 PM 
Blogger Spencerblog said...

Anonymous has a good point.

Blacks are truer to the Democrat party than they are to any black candidate, especially if that candidate is a Republican.

Blacks only flocked to Obama as a presidential candidate after they thought he could actually win. But flock they did.

Whites don't flock as a racial group. That's a good thing. And it would probably be better for blacks if Democrats couldn't take their votes so for granted. After all, what has the Democratic party done for blacks as a group lately?

April 1, 2009 at 11:14 PM 
Anonymous Bob said...

Gil - "Whites don't flock as a racial group" ??
Spend some time in the South.

April 2, 2009 at 12:32 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Last time I looked, Pellegi was a Republican. Spencerblog says "Blacks only flocked to Obama as a presidential candidate after they thought he could actually win. But flock they did." Could it have been because he was the better of the two candidates, and blacks as well as whites knew that?

April 2, 2009 at 8:08 AM 
Blogger Spencerblog said...

Actually, John Linder, the black and less "better" candidate carried the Chester city vote by a margin of 2 to 1.

BTW, it's Pileggi.

April 2, 2009 at 8:23 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Given the racial make up of Chester, 76% black, 5% Hispanic, 2 to 1 still disproves your statement that "Black voters, however, remain amazingly true to their race when it comes to voting."

April 2, 2009 at 10:31 AM 
Blogger Spencerblog said...

Wrong again. It disproves nothing of the sort.

Linder, the less experienced and, dare we say, inferior candidate received the overwhelming majority of votes in the disproportionaly African-American city of Chester.

That some blacks voted for Pileggi and that some whites for Linder doesn't change that demographic fact.

This isn't exactly controversial stuff. It is understood by pollsters and political operatives very well.

April 2, 2009 at 11:14 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually Black voters voted for John Linder in the Pileggi vs. Linder election because Blacks in Chester are tired of Dominic Pileggi and the way he makes his career on their backs. Pileggi won because his district extends into and all the way to the other side of Chester County.
Pileggi continues to bring in businesses such as Harrah's and the Soccer Stadium( oh yeah the blacks in Chester will really go to that, don't make me laugh), but they continue to be left out of the process. With the help of the black Republican Mayor and Council, Chester is being handed over to Pileggi and the Republicans on a silver platter. Linder and West are running for Council now because there have been no Democrats on Council or a Mayor for that matter since 1992. Linder and West know Chester and have been very active and involved in the community for years. They are the best candidates this year running for any office in Chester. Every one including Gil Spencer needs to get their facts straight.

April 16, 2009 at 11:22 AM 

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