Dan Abrams interviews former AGs John Ashcroft and Alberto Gonzales about national security and "torture" in front of a college audience and finds the pickings not as easy as he thought.
It has become a standard trope of the left that when a former Bush administration official is asked his opinion on these matters, to childishly shout "Who cares what these people say?"
It turns out a lot of people do. And for good reason.
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