Santorum remains a punching bag for angry leftists and their cheerleaders in the media. It's not hard to see who the real "haters" are. My print column is up.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Colmes on FOX? What's that old saying? Garbage in, garbage out? And I've watched Santorum on MSNBC's Morning Joe several times. They not only treat him with respect, but they talk about what a nice guy he is. My question to you is, if his comment about not wanting to give handout's to black people was above board, why did he try to deny the fact that he even said "black"? - During an appearance on FOX News Channel's "The O'Reilly Factor," he denied ever making the comments, saying the remark was the result of "a little bit of a blurred word."
"I looked at that, and I didn't say that," Santorum told O'Reilly. "If you look at it, what I started to say is a word and then sort of changed and it sort of -- blah -- came out. And people said I said 'black.' I didn't."
Who you gonna believe Gil? Santorum or your lyin ears?
Gil - Why do I have to admit that Santorum's comment wasn't racist? I believe that Santorum himself realized, after it was to late of course, that this statement was going to be interpreted as racist. Why else would he try to worm his way out of it? And ask yourself this question. Could Santorum have just as easily and properly substituted the word "poor" instead of black? It's possible that his intention wasn't racist, but this certainly does provide insight into his subconscious.
Gil - You find my response disapointing? So what? I'm not here to make you feel good. You have your band of merry men for that. In your column you quote Santorum as saying “I don’t want to make black people’s lives better by giving them somebody else’s money. I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money,” But Santorum claims he never used the word black. Or at least he doesn't think he did. Here it is - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3104J6UX7Vw#! Someone is lying. And I don't think it's you.
Gil - "And you're playing bad-faith pop psychologist doesn't do you much credit either." Is that the proper use of the word your? I mean, I'm not really a pop psychologist, but you're supposed to be a professional writer. Right? Just saying.
Thanks Gil. The feeling is mutual. Maybe from another angle. If Santorum isn't willing to defend his own statement. Why do you find it necessary to defend it? I hope you really know better, but then maybe you don't. Maybe you don't know a racist statement when you hear one. In this instance, the race card was played by Santorum. He was called on it. He gave a lame excuse. And now you're defending him. And Gil, stop the Jake baiting. Really.
This is depressing, Bob, because I like you. But I know phony accusations of racism when I see them. You apparently don't or don't care. Santorum, at worst, misspoke. He didn't play the race card. But you are. And I think that's both sad and lame.
Gil - I value your friendship too. And I agree with much of what you've written in this column. The Colmes and Robinson statements were insensative and cruel. The remarks made on the Bill Maher show were certainly uncalled for. And not knowing Santorum personally, I have no idea if Santorum is a racist, and I would be more than willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. But the statement itself, not only in my opinion, but in the opinion of many others, was racist. Was it intentional? Only Santorum can answer that. But Santorium's handling of the situation leads me to believe that he is well aware of the inflamatory nature of what he said. Perhaps if you were black you would be wondering why Santorum singled out your race in this quote, instead of inserting the word poor. Poor people come in all colors. Santorum was a senator. He should know that.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Colmes on FOX? What's that old saying? Garbage in, garbage out?
ReplyDeleteAnd I've watched Santorum on MSNBC's Morning Joe several times. They not only treat him with respect, but they talk about what a nice guy he is. My question to you is, if his comment about not wanting to give handout's to black people was above board, why did he try to deny the fact that he even said "black"? - During an appearance on FOX News Channel's "The O'Reilly Factor," he denied ever making the comments, saying the remark was the result of "a little bit of a blurred word."
"I looked at that, and I didn't say that," Santorum told O'Reilly. "If you look at it, what I started to say is a word and then sort of changed and it sort of -- blah -- came out. And people said I said 'black.' I didn't."
Who you gonna believe Gil? Santorum or your lyin ears?
The real question is was the substance of the comment "racist" as it was being declared by certain liberal pundits and reporters.
ReplyDeleteUnless you're wiling to admit that it wasn't, you'll have a problem with Jake and you'll deserve it.
Gil - Why do I have to admit that Santorum's comment wasn't racist? I believe that Santorum himself realized, after it was to late of course, that this statement was going to be interpreted as racist. Why else would he try to worm his way out of it? And ask yourself this question. Could Santorum have just as easily and properly substituted the word "poor" instead of black? It's possible that his intention wasn't racist, but this certainly does provide insight into his subconscious.
ReplyDeleteBTW, I can handle Jake.
ReplyDeletefeels like we're evolving from racist statements to statements that will now infer racism. when will it stop?
ReplyDeleteracist is as racist does
ReplyDeleteBob,
ReplyDeleteI find your response disappointing. Santorum realized his answer could and would be misconstrued by the racialists. And it was.
And you're playing bad-faith pop psychologist doesn't do you much credit either.
Gil - You find my response disapointing? So what? I'm not here to make you feel good. You have your band of merry men for that. In your column you quote Santorum as saying “I don’t want to make black people’s lives better by giving them somebody else’s money. I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money,” But Santorum claims he never used the word black. Or at least he doesn't think he did. Here it is - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3104J6UX7Vw#! Someone is lying. And I don't think it's you.
ReplyDeleteGil - "And you're playing bad-faith pop psychologist doesn't do you much credit either." Is that the proper use of the word your? I mean, I'm not really a pop psychologist, but you're supposed to be a professional writer. Right? Just saying.
ReplyDeleteWeak, Bob. Very weak.
ReplyDeletePlay the race stuff if you want. But you're making Jake's case for him.
ReplyDeleteThanks Gil. The feeling is mutual. Maybe from another angle. If Santorum isn't willing to defend his own statement. Why do you find it necessary to defend it? I hope you really know better, but then maybe you don't. Maybe you don't know a racist statement when you hear one. In this instance, the race card was played by Santorum. He was called on it. He gave a lame excuse. And now you're defending him. And Gil, stop the Jake baiting. Really.
ReplyDeleteThis is depressing, Bob, because I like you. But I know phony accusations of racism when I see them. You apparently don't or don't care. Santorum, at worst, misspoke. He didn't play the race card. But you are. And I think that's both sad and lame.
ReplyDeleteGil - I value your friendship too. And I agree with much of what you've written in this column. The Colmes and Robinson statements were insensative and cruel. The remarks made on the Bill Maher show were certainly uncalled for.
ReplyDeleteAnd not knowing Santorum personally, I have no idea if Santorum is a racist, and I would be more than willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. But the statement itself, not only in my opinion, but in the opinion of many others, was racist. Was it intentional? Only Santorum can answer that. But Santorium's handling of the situation leads me to believe that he is well aware of the inflamatory nature of what he said. Perhaps if you were black you would be wondering why Santorum singled out your race in this quote, instead of inserting the word poor. Poor people come in all colors. Santorum was a senator. He should know that.
Like he doesn't know that? Really?
ReplyDeleteI'll just leave it at that.
Gil - No hard feelings. I'll still let you hang out with me.
ReplyDeleteFunny, I always thought it was YOU who was hanging out with ME.
ReplyDeleteOK. I take back all the bad shit I said about you now.
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