Tuesday, January 31, 2012

Teacher of the Decade

The face of what's wrong with teachers unions



From the New York Post: 
Deemed a danger to kids, the typing teacher with a $10 million real estate portfolio hasn’t been allowed in a classroom for more than a decade, but still collects $100,049 a year in city salary — plus health benefits, a growing pension nest egg, vacation and sick pay.
Mayor Bloomberg and Gov. Cuomo can call for better teacher evaluations until they’re blue-faced, but Rosenfeld and six peers with similar gigs costing about $650,000 a year in total salaries are untouchable. Under a system shackled by protections for tenured teachers, they can’t be fired, the DOE says.

17 Comments:

Blogger Dannytheman said...

Wow!!! How about that! 100K a year and will retire, if he ever does with over 85K a year minimum? Who were the people who put these stupid Iron Clad agreements together?
Companies break pension promises all the time, and they get this guy?
Teachers need to unite against these type of teachers. Get them out!

January 31, 2012 at 8:04 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are probably 10 or so such teachers in the school nearest you. This is everywhere! All teachers know who they are and will not do a thing because that would be risking backlash from the union.

January 31, 2012 at 8:56 AM 
Anonymous Rus said...

Tenure is nice for those who really earn it. Unfortunately, many take advantage of it. My daughters had a teacher known as keg on legs. Must be nice.

January 31, 2012 at 10:33 AM 
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January 31, 2012 at 12:48 PM 
Blogger Bob Bohne said...

I would say that this is the exception, not the rule. My mother was a teacher. I have friends that are teachers. All of the ones that I know are hard working and dedicated. I remember my mother coming home from work around 4:30, spreading all of her students home work,essays, etc. on the dining room table, and working on that stuff till 10 at night. That was at least 2 to 3 nights a week.

January 31, 2012 at 12:49 PM 
Anonymous Rus said...

Bob, I think you are generally correct on this. Most do earn it. I attended Shippensburg State in Pennsylvania which started as a school to train teachers and many of my classmates went on to become educators. All of the ones I kept in touch with were like your mother.

But like everywhere else, there are always exceptions.

How did that rule go? There are exceptions to every rule including this one.

January 31, 2012 at 1:47 PM 
Blogger Bob Bohne said...

Rus - My mom taught K through 5 in the William Penn District. She was part teacher, part social worker, so I had a ringside seat.

Anon - Not all Unions or locals have adversarial relationships with the employer.

January 31, 2012 at 3:56 PM 
Blogger CharlieSix said...

I have total respect for the teachers, like Bob's Mom, who were/are dedicated to the position they hold. My ex was a teacher for many years at a Delco high school but could not count the days until she could retire. Why? Because she was so frustrated by the combination of those who had tenure and effectively retired on the job and the failure of the administration acting to weed them out because of the union contract. The combination of elected school boards who are beholden to the teachers unions and vice-versa is one which truly hampers progress in our public school districts. Again, Bob, I respect your Mother's dedication and service just as I respect my ex-wife's service. Let us not paint a broad brush against all teachers. That's not what the post was about but the post speaks loudly to have some reforms.

January 31, 2012 at 9:54 PM 
Blogger CharlieSix said...

I have total respect for the teachers, like Bob's Mom, who were/are dedicated to the position they hold. My ex was a teacher for many years at a Delco high school but could not count the days until she could retire. Why? Because she was so frustrated by the combination of those who had tenure and effectively retired on the job and the failure of the administration acting to weed them out because of the union contract. The combination of elected school boards who are beholden to the teachers unions and vice-versa is one which truly hampers progress in our public school districts. Again, Bob, I respect your Mother's dedication and service just as I respect my ex-wife's service. Let us not paint a broad brush against all teachers. That's not what the post was about but the post speaks loudly to have some reforms.

January 31, 2012 at 9:55 PM 
Blogger Bob Bohne said...

Charlie Two Times - I'll go along with that. As a Union rep, I often find myself representing the same people over and over again. But I'd still rather work in a union shop than a non-union shop. I know a lot of non union workers who would love to have union representation.

January 31, 2012 at 10:47 PM 
Blogger Dannytheman said...

So do we all agree that this guy, and other teachers like him, should be able to be fired? I have 32 years on my job, no tenure, no representation. I will also say I do not want a ever union involved in my job.

February 1, 2012 at 8:59 AM 
Blogger Bob Bohne said...

Danny - Thats not what you said when I told you about my pension.
You told me how lucky I was.

Think about what you're saying Danny. You wouldn't want collective bargaining? You wouldn't want the right to representation and council if you were accused of something that you weren't guilty of by managment? You wouldn't want your 32 years of seniority to count for something? Danny, 32 years on the job with no tenure or representation isn't such a good thing.

February 1, 2012 at 9:25 AM 
Blogger jake said...

The problem is public sector unions. No feel-good anecdotes about Momma Bohne can paper over a system that is structually flawed.

Trade unions serve a worthwhile purpose, protecting workers in dangerous fields, subject to the essential checks and balances of stockholders and corporate budgets.

There are no such checks and balances in public sector unions. That's why they were outlawed until the 1960's. They just keep raising salaries and benefits, while instituting work rules like tenure that have no public benefit.

Two ways to fix school districts right away:

First, make the union collect their own dues. Right now, the school district collects it for the union as part of the benefits package. When those teachers have to scratch a check themselves, maybe they will question the union leader salaries and their left-wing agenda.

Second, ban all public sector unions from contributing to political campaigns. The union members are welcome to contribute individually, but no more union dues converted to influence peddling.

February 1, 2012 at 11:19 AM 
Blogger Dannytheman said...

Bob,
In my company, and please keep name out of here, we have a couple Union shops. Those guys, that I have worked with for 30+ years, are still doing what I started out doing 32 years ago. I have progressed and been promoted multiple times. They are STILL doing what they started out doing. They have to wait for someone to die, before ever getting a chance to move up, and that is by seniority, not by ability or educational accomplishments. What's up with that?!
So no, I sure wouldn't mind having a pension, but I know companies that offer them without Union membership. But I have a great 401 K plan, and I am doing my best to load it up.
I have never been accused of anything in all my years. Why pay for that? Isn't that what a Labor Lawyer would be for?
Nope, I think there was a time for Unions. But no more.
I was written up and charged 475 dollars for breaking a rule in a Union shop. (I moved a cable on the floor) Dumb, dumb, dumb.

And do you agree this teacher should be fired??????????

February 1, 2012 at 12:01 PM 
Anonymous Rus said...

Time to lighten up?
"Alcohol may be man's worst enemy, but the Bible says love your enemy" Frank Sinatra

February 1, 2012 at 5:12 PM 
Blogger Dannytheman said...

Geez Rus,
This is me lightening up!!
You should read me when I am truly mad.

February 2, 2012 at 11:44 AM 
Blogger Bob Bohne said...

Danny - On the face of it, yes he should be fired. But not having a link to the entire article puts the reader at a disadvantage to make that decission.

February 3, 2012 at 8:36 AM 

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