Squirrel - We're talking about the same folks that thought the South Park pedophile episode was a hoot. Excuse me if don't share their idea of what is and what isn't funny.
Squirrel - One can be moral without being religious, and one can be religious without being moral. That, and Bobcat Goldthwait is about as funny as Dennis Miller. Who's is about as funny as Jake. Who's about as funny as an undertaker.
You don't have to tell me about morality/right-wrong without religion, Bob. I'm not religious and common sense gives me a sense of decency and an understanding of right & wrong.
South Park is funny because it's usually tied to a current event and objectively makes fun of everyone. The NAMBLA episode of South Park you mentioned is funny but it also exposes the real issue of pedophilia, and ridicules it.
Movies like Idiocracy and this upcoming film are funny because they make statements, albeit in roundabout fashion. Take Idiocracy for example. This film poses a a comically exaggerated point about how society and political correctness has leveled Darwin's playing field, effectively allowing the stupid to reproduce at a rate outpacing the rate of the intelligent. The end result is a crude and stupid world, unable to solve its most basic of problems. This new film captures the public's disdain for a-holes, taking aim at the spoiled and fraudulent celebrity that Hollywood has created and creates a fantasy in their eradication. There's nothing wrong with any of it when it's seen for what it is, a fantasy and escape from reality. A person that calls it shallow end humor hasn't walked poolside to see how deep it is...
So to fittingly take a movie quote to end my thoughts: "Lighten Up, Francis" -Sgt Hulka (Stripes)
Squirrel - Do certain people really need poorly drawn cartoon characters and predictable humor to expose "the real issue of pedophilia"? If so, my "shallow end" comment is spot on. I've watched South Park. I find it mildly amusing at best, appealing to those who enjoy bathroom and sophomoric humor. I'll defend their constitutional right to produce and air such programs, but I also reserve the right to watch programs and movies that provide a higher degree of intellectual stimulation. As much as I disagree with author Charles Murray, I often feel as though I'm making his argument.
I guess Murray missed a chapter, explaining the lack of a sense of humor in those who believe themselves to be in the 'cognitive elite'.
To me, humor is limitless and sometimes funniest when it crosses the boundaries of decency, as seen in the eyes of older generations. You see it as low-brow, I find genius in it.
Is it generational? Who knows... If so, I'll blame my new found disinterest in this thread on my generation's apathy and say have a nice day.
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ReplyDeleteLook out teabaggers!!!
ReplyDeleteThis is sick
ReplyDeleteGil - In case you're interested, Charles Murray is lecturing on C-SPAN2 Book TV. I'm sure they will be showing this several times.
ReplyDeleteWhere is the censor when you need them. FCC Please Help us!!!
ReplyDeleteOur society is sick, Bob.
ReplyDeleteThey could have filmed this in Chester or Philly. Oy!
ReplyDeleteYes Bob, it is sick.
It's really frightening to think of the potential influence a movie like this can have on those not capable of rational thought.
ReplyDeleteDon't you just love all these deep thinkers trying to attach some profound meaning to a comedy?
ReplyDeleteAmazing what passes for humor in the shallow end.
ReplyDeleteElitist snotty comments like that one make you no friends, Bob.
ReplyDeleteSquirrel - Thats what I'm counting on.
ReplyDeleteFair enough. You're usually a bit more level headed in your retorts, so that one caught my attention...
ReplyDeleteSquirrel - We're talking about the same folks that thought the South Park pedophile episode was a hoot. Excuse me if don't share their idea of what is and what isn't funny.
ReplyDeleteWow... the religious/moral left. The world is upside down.
ReplyDeleteSquirrel - One can be moral without being religious, and one can be religious without being moral. That, and Bobcat Goldthwait is about as funny as Dennis Miller. Who's is about as funny as Jake. Who's about as funny as an undertaker.
ReplyDeleteYou don't have to tell me about morality/right-wrong without religion, Bob. I'm not religious and common sense gives me a sense of decency and an understanding of right & wrong.
ReplyDeleteSouth Park is funny because it's usually tied to a current event and objectively makes fun of everyone. The NAMBLA episode of South Park you mentioned is funny but it also exposes the real issue of pedophilia, and ridicules it.
Movies like Idiocracy and this upcoming film are funny because they make statements, albeit in roundabout fashion. Take Idiocracy for example. This film poses a a comically exaggerated point about how society and political correctness has leveled Darwin's playing field, effectively allowing the stupid to reproduce at a rate outpacing the rate of the intelligent. The end result is a crude and stupid world, unable to solve its most basic of problems. This new film captures the public's disdain for a-holes, taking aim at the spoiled and fraudulent celebrity that Hollywood has created and creates a fantasy in their eradication. There's nothing wrong with any of it when it's seen for what it is, a fantasy and escape from reality. A person that calls it shallow end humor hasn't walked poolside to see how deep it is...
So to fittingly take a movie quote to end my thoughts:
"Lighten Up, Francis"
-Sgt Hulka (Stripes)
Squirrel - Do certain people really need poorly drawn cartoon characters and predictable humor to expose "the real issue of pedophilia"? If so, my "shallow end" comment is spot on. I've watched South Park. I find it mildly amusing at best, appealing to those who enjoy bathroom and sophomoric humor. I'll defend their constitutional right to produce and air such programs, but I also reserve the right to watch programs and movies that provide a higher degree of intellectual stimulation. As much as I disagree with author Charles Murray, I often feel as though I'm making his argument.
ReplyDeleteI guess Murray missed a chapter, explaining the lack of a sense of humor in those who believe themselves to be in the 'cognitive elite'.
ReplyDeleteTo me, humor is limitless and sometimes funniest when it crosses the boundaries of decency, as seen in the eyes of older generations. You see it as low-brow, I find genius in it.
Is it generational? Who knows...
If so, I'll blame my new found disinterest in this thread on my generation's apathy and say have a nice day.
Squirrel - We agree to disagree. I'll pass on the pedophilia and blood lust, thank you.
ReplyDeleteQ. How many feminists does it take to change a lightbulb?
ReplyDeleteA. That's not funny.
Q. How many pedophiles does it take to change a light bulb.
Bob's Answer: That's not funny, either. And I think Charles Murray would agree with me.
Q - How many conservative columnists does it take to change a light bulb?
ReplyDeleteA - Why bother changing the light bulb. They're used to being in the dark.