Tuesday, March 27, 2012

On the Trayvon Martin Tragedy...

... Juan Williams NAILS IT!

While civil rights leaders have raised their voices to speak out against this one tragedy, few if any will do the same about the larger tragedy of daily carnage that is black-on-black crime in America.
The most recent comprehensive study on black-on-black crime from the Justice Department should have been a clarion call for the black community to take action. There is no reason to believe that the trends it reported have decreased since 2005, the year for which the data were reported.
Almost one half of the nation's murder victims that year were black and a majority of them were between the ages of 17 and 29. Black people accounted for 13% of the total U.S. population in 2005. Yet they were the victims of 49% of all the nation's murders. And 93% of black murder victims were killed by other black people, according to the same report.

Read it all.

17 Comments:

Blogger Bob Bohne said...

Interesting read. The big question is what do we attribute this to? And what does Juan Williams attri bute this to?

March 27, 2012 at 8:29 PM 
Blogger CharlieSix said...

Perhaps, Bob, we attribute it to a lack of leadership. When Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton were grandstanding about the genuinely tragic situation of Trayvon Martin's death, they ignored the white college student in Mississippi who was murdered by three black men. Mr. Sanderson's death was equally as devastating for his family as was Trayvon's death. I was personally affected in no small way by the early-1960s racial movements in the City of Chester. And here I am 50 years later attempting to answer the question of why has there not been meaningful change. To be honest, I'm tired of being told that it is a one-sided problem. Juan Williams recognizes that it is not. And I have hope that the Reverends Jackson and Sharpton do too. Leadership? Well established academic study proves that "the followers" will follow a person whom they believe shares their values. For example, George Wallace, labeled as a racist, but a person who had demonstrated in many ways that he was not, was elected as governor of Alabama because he convinced the electorate that he "was with them". If the Reverends Jackson and Sharpton, and more locally the Philadelphia Mayor Nutter and DA Seth Williams had one ounce of leadership sense within them, and if they really wanted equality, they would have restrained from wearing a hoodie in a Twitter post (Mr. Williams) or calling Mr. Martin's tragic death, without foundation of fact, "an assination" (Mayor Nutter). They played to the people they wanted to assure they share values with. They ignored, as have the Reverends Jackson and Sharpton, a leadership moment. So, yes, 50 plus years later, here I sit wondering, as do you, "what do we attribute this to?"

March 27, 2012 at 9:15 PM 
Blogger Bob Bohne said...

Charlie - I agree with much of what you say, but the Sanderson murder isn't a good comparison. I think you're losing focus of what makes this case different. In the Sanderson case, arrests were made. Not so with this case. Zimmerman wasn't even D & A tested. There's something seriously wrong with this picture.

March 27, 2012 at 10:42 PM 
Blogger Dannytheman said...

Lack of leadership is dead on!!

I have watched this event since it happened a month ago. Been watching the escalation of it with sincere interest. This story show the power of the media to distort and omit facts.

Sharpton, Jackson, Nutter, Farakhan and President Obama should know to make statements without all the facts.

This event was a serious attempt to rally the blacks to vote in the November election. Of that I am sure! I feel the family of Trayvon are being used as ploys in some grand rally plan.

All of the facts about this case are out there. All the 911 tapes are there, all the police reports. Listen and read all the eyewitness reports, including the 13 year old black girls eyewitness report, and then make your informed decision.

This entire media blitz of lies and misinformation has truly opened my eyes further to the way media can mislead and abuse their power.

So, while Juan Williams might want to talk about black on black crime being an issue, which it has for a while, I would like to discuss why this case was adopted by all the left wing nut cases and Leftist MSM folks?

March 28, 2012 at 7:09 AM 
Blogger Bob Bohne said...

Danny - You write "Sharpton, Jackson, Nutter, Farakhan and President Obama should know to make statements without all the facts." Is that really what you meant to say?

March 28, 2012 at 12:35 PM 
Blogger Dannytheman said...

Should have been, "Sharpton, Jackson, Nutter, Farakhan and President Obama should know NOT to make statements without all the facts." Good catch Bob! Thanks!

March 28, 2012 at 1:54 PM 
Blogger Bob Bohne said...

Danny - That being said, you then write "All of the facts about this case are out there. All the 911 tapes are there, all the police reports. Listen and read all the eyewitness reports, including the 13 year old black girls eyewitness report, and then make your informed decision."
I strongly disagree. All of the facts are not available, and no one should be making a decission about this case yet. But it sounds like you have already made your decission, and that's what you've been critical of Nutter, Sharpton, Jackson, Farakhan and Obama of. And I don't believe that Obamas remarks draw any conclusions, but thats another argument.

March 28, 2012 at 2:20 PM 
Blogger Dannytheman said...

Nutter called this an "assassination", Bob!!
And you have the audacity to think I am jumping to conclusions? You have a delusional mind. I took the time to read everything available, to listen to everything available. I ignored his school suspension completely. (10 days BTW)

AGAIN, we are 30+ days out and even with all the national scrutiny George Zimmerman has had no charges of any kind placed against him. The FBI can't find any reason to charge him either.

6 eyewitnesses, 6. His story has not changed. It was 1 bullet, not a hail of bullets fired in a crazy pattern. George Zimmerman stopped an assailant.

Look up Gerald Ung's story and see how that went.

March 29, 2012 at 7:02 AM 
Blogger Bob Bohne said...

Danny - 1. Fact - Zimmerman was recorded on tape making several statements to the 911 dispatcher that indicate racial bias and agitation.
2. Fact - Zimmerman was told by the police dispatcher not to follow the suspect. His compliance is still in question.
3. - Fact - The lead investigator wanted manslaughter charges filed.
4. Fact - Recent released video of Zimmerman being taken into custody by the police show no obvious signs of the severe beating that Zimmerman claims to have suffered at the hands of Martin.

What about those facts Danny?

March 29, 2012 at 9:22 AM 
Blogger Dannytheman said...

You don't need to reply twice in 2 different threads. I answered you in the other. You are, as usual, wrong. Those things you listed are not right because YOU and your left wing race baiters say they are FACTS.

March 29, 2012 at 10:33 AM 
Blogger CharlieSix said...

Bob: Typical liberal post:
2. Fact - Zimmerman was told by the police dispatcher not to follow the suspect. His compliance is still in question.
Fact, yes that he was told by the police dispatcher to not follow the suspect. Fact too that his compliance is still in question. But what you imply is that he did not comply. However, eyewitness statements do not support your allegation that he did not comply. How, then, can you include it as a Fact? That said, I give you kudos on your typical liberal twisting of Fact.

March 30, 2012 at 12:11 AM 
Blogger CharlieSix said...

Bob: Typical liberal post:
2. Fact - Zimmerman was told by the police dispatcher not to follow the suspect. His compliance is still in question.
Fact, yes that he was told by the police dispatcher to not follow the suspect. Fact too that his compliance is still in question. But what you imply is that he did not comply. However, eyewitness statements do not support your allegation that he did not comply. How, then, can you include it as a Fact? That said, I give you kudos on your typical liberal twisting of Fact.

March 30, 2012 at 12:11 AM 
Blogger Bob Bohne said...

Charlie two times - I guess reading comprehension wasn't your strong point in school. I did not imply that he didn't comply. I said his compliance is still in question, as in still unknown. It's not that difficult Charles.

March 30, 2012 at 6:14 AM 
Blogger Bob Bohne said...

Charles two times - On top of that, Danny's argument that the dispatcher doesnt have the authority to tell Zimmerman what to do is plain dumb. Anyone with common sense in a situation like this would follow the instructions of the trained professional. Why aren't you calling Danny on that?

March 30, 2012 at 6:17 AM 
Blogger Dannytheman said...

Plain dumb?

Please stipulate what authority a Police Dispatcher has over an individual. They are civilians only with no legal authority over anyone. How is that Plain Dumb to understand?
Here is a cops response that I copied from a individual that thinks wrong like you do.

"Our dispatchers are civilians. They have no legal or presumed authority to tell us what to do. They dispatch the calls and how we respond is up to us."

March 30, 2012 at 1:23 PM 
Blogger Dannytheman said...

And lastly on the subject of what the Police Dispatcher said, he said, "We don't need you to do that!" He did not say DO NOT DO THAT.

March 30, 2012 at 1:26 PM 
Blogger jake said...

Danny,
You're missing Bob's point.
Any time a public sector employee tells us ordinary chumps what to do, we have to obey.

Forget that most police dispatchers, like my relative, graduate to the job from being a secretary.
They have not been to the police academy, passed a weapons qualifications test, passed a medical or psychological evaluation, or spent any time on the street.

But it helps make the case that Zimmerman was a racist vigilante when you elevate this dispatcher to a high level law enforcement authority.

March 31, 2012 at 10:04 AM 

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