Monday, May 21, 2012

A Teachable Moment

Check out this exchange between her students and a public school teacher in a North Carolina classroom.

It's not so much the teacher's ignorant and hysterical claim that a student could be arrested for disrespecting President Obama, it's that the teacher obviously has no control over her classroom, doesn't have the respect of her students and based on how she conducts herself, doesn't deserve it.

That public schools hire such people to be teachers and then can't get rid of them, is a lot of what's wrong with public education.

Listen and learn...





12 Comments:

Blogger Dannytheman said...

How does someone like this, who obviously has been educated, get away with this thinking? I can hold my tongue when I have to.
If she worked for my company, she would be fired. She will probably get promoted to a NEA representitive!

May 21, 2012 at 10:32 AM 
Blogger MediaMike said...

Uh, total lie that she cannot get fired. Good attempt though.

May 21, 2012 at 7:10 PM 
Blogger Dannytheman said...

She was suspended, not fired. MediaMike FAIL!!!

May 22, 2012 at 6:51 AM 
Blogger MediaMike said...

@ Dannytheman: I said it was a lie that she cannot get fired. I said nothing of what consequence her employer chose to levy against her.

May 22, 2012 at 8:44 AM 
Blogger Dannytheman said...

She can not get fired, she has tenure. She also was suspended with PAY!! WooHooo free days off for her.

May 22, 2012 at 12:26 PM 
Blogger Dannytheman said...

She should be suspended without pay for 1 week. Lose the weeks pay.
She has tenure, which is like having freedom to do what you want, barring placing naked pictures of students on her classroom wall, she is protected. Look up tenure, and see what it means. YES, she can be fired, but it would cost the school district tens of thousands of dollars to do it. I would rather teach her a true lesson and suspend her with NO pay for week and make her apologize to the entire class and school for her mistaken lesson.

Simple. But I bet she won't.

May 22, 2012 at 12:33 PM 
Blogger MediaMike said...

Danny: you still are not understanding what tenure means. It means due process in the firing of an employee. It is not freedom to do what you want. Depending on what rules her employer agreed to with the teachers there, any number of things could happen. In this case they suspended her for a week. In another district they could have fired her. Your blanket statements are 100% incorrect.

May 22, 2012 at 1:51 PM 
Blogger Dannytheman said...

My statements are based on looking up and researching the amount of fired TENURED teachers in now 14 of the States. I have not found one.
So while, if you read my last post, I admit that it is legally possible to be fired if tenured, it is not what happens. Do not get into a semantics battle with me. Back your story with some proof that tenured teachers have been fired.
The only one I could find was in NJ and the teacher whipped a special ed student with an electric cord. That took 4 years to fire that teacher. 4 years that that teacher was paid.
Please find another argument.

May 22, 2012 at 3:53 PM 
Blogger MediaMike said...

Danny, what you're not going to see reported or made public by any school district is that they get rid of teachers with tenure all the time. They might not do it in public to appease people like you who are out for union blood, but they get rid of staff every year. It might take the form of pressure to make a person resign their position, but they're gone.

May 22, 2012 at 4:23 PM 
Blogger Dannytheman said...

Ohhhh, super secret tenure firings. You are right, I didn't know there are tons of those.

Again, if this bigot worked for my company, she's be gone already. So do you believe she should have been suspended with pay?

May 22, 2012 at 9:06 PM 
Blogger Dannytheman said...

Cricket, cricket!!

May 23, 2012 at 11:50 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Short of (a) proven--not just alleged-sexual misconduct, or (b) walking into the principal's or president's office and pissing on his desk, there is going to be a very difficult time for any educational institution, including K-12 through and including a private college/university, to fire a tenured teacher/professor. Fact. Misconduct in the classroom? Slap the wrist.

May 26, 2012 at 9:38 PM 

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