The difference between these guys having guns and people that don't is that unfortunately the Office of the President of the United States of America is kind of a target. I suppose that the people who take office know it when they get involved. Kids in a school, people watching a movie at a public movie theater, etc. are not expecting to get shot at while going about their normal day to day business.
My family used to own a family store in Chester. We were unfortunately the victims of armed hold ups (my father about 12 times and I three times) since I was about 15 (I'm 50 now and we closed the store in March of 2002) we had firearms on the premises, the crooks also had firearms. The difference is that the crooks hit us every single time when we were least expecting it. You give up the money and try to get them out of the store as fast as possible. We could have got into a gun fight with the crooks, but it was not worth the risk. A miss and taking the chance of hitting an innocent bystander was not worth the risk. The guns were good for getting ready to leave for the evening and preparing yourself, when you have a plan in place.
I did find out that the one guy that was caught and we went to trial for was out of prison after about a 1 ½ . He was in prison for quite some time before he was let out and started back with his old stuff again. The idea is to have less guns, so that these people who want to commit crimes don’t have the supply to get to them. No disrespect to the people who have been killed in these mass shootings in the past dozen or so years, but the “day to day” hold ups, shootings, etc make up way more than the large mass shootings and they have to stop too.
In addition to having been a store owner, I am also a volunteer firefighter in Delaware County. If you get to listen to the fire radio and hear the paramedics they run quite a lot of shootings in Chester , Upper Darby, and other part of the county. This is an epidemic throughout the rest of Delaware County, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, and the rest of the United States.
The “John Wayne” mentality has to be kept in check. In the movies and some people who are gun advocates you are going to pull your gun out mow down the bad guy. Unfortunately the crooks and bad guys don’t follow the script(they either have some sort of drug / alcohol problem or some sort of mental problem that you can’t reason with them.) If you get guns (and more importantly the ammunition) out of the crooks hands by not having as much around, you might be able to fight back and keep the crooks in check. If we start making our public places (schools, malls, etc.) in such a lock down, we will be the ones in prison and the bad guys will be out and about running around. I think that it’s supposed to be the other way around.
Nice comment. It says exactly what I would like to say. The POTUS has armed guards, because there is always a threat. There should not be an expected threat for a six year old to go to school.
2 anonymous folks who do not speak for me. The President is a man, with a family. His life is no more important than mine. Where does this stop? So important men get protection but the "common" man is disarmed?
My family and my life is just as important to me as his is. I do not get FREE taxpayer paid protection from Secret Service, or in Mayor Bloomberg, and Mayor Emmanuel and Mayor Nutter's case police protection.
I also had a friend who owned a bar in Chester years ago. He was held up 3 times and then on the 4th attempt, he was killed for taking to long to hand over the money. True story!
I have no John Wayne mentality, you would never know I was armed and I would hand over my wallet if needed. BUT, if I felt my life was in danger, I would act.
Thieves are cowards and reasons you list in your story make it apparent that criminals with guns do not receive reasonable sentences from judges. Use a gun in a crime and get 1.5 years? That has wrong all over it.
Danny, this picture is silly. These men are professionals, and they have a reason for carrying guns. No different than police carrying guns, and no one's calling for the elimination of that practice. I'm all for the second amendment, and I would fight for it's continued existance, however the questions here are the availabity of semi auto's, high capacity clips, lack of enforcement of current gun laws due to a shortage of ATF employees, and a failure to properly investigate all gun purchases. Merry Christmas my friend. Hope to see you and Gil in the near future.
The difference between these guys having guns and people that don't is that unfortunately the Office of the President of the United States of America is kind of a target. I suppose that the people who take office know it when they get involved. Kids in a school, people watching a movie at a public movie theater, etc. are not expecting to get shot at while going about their normal day to day business.
ReplyDeleteMy family used to own a family store in Chester. We were unfortunately the victims of armed hold ups (my father about 12 times and I three times) since I was about 15 (I'm 50 now and we closed the store in March of 2002) we had firearms on the premises, the crooks also had firearms. The difference is that the crooks hit us every single time when we were least expecting it. You give up the money and try to get them out of the store as fast as possible. We could have got into a gun fight with the crooks, but it was not worth the risk. A miss and taking the chance of hitting an innocent bystander was not worth the risk. The guns were good for getting ready to leave for the evening and preparing yourself, when you have a plan in place.
I did find out that the one guy that was caught and we went to trial for was out of prison after about a 1 ½ . He was in prison for quite some time before he was let out and started back with his old stuff again. The idea is to have less guns, so that these people who want to commit crimes don’t have the supply to get to them. No disrespect to the people who have been killed in these mass shootings in the past dozen or so years, but the “day to day” hold ups, shootings, etc make up way more than the large mass shootings and they have to stop too.
In addition to having been a store owner, I am also a volunteer firefighter in Delaware County. If you get to listen to the fire radio and hear the paramedics they run quite a lot of shootings in Chester , Upper Darby, and other part of the county. This is an epidemic throughout the rest of Delaware County, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, and the rest of the United States.
The “John Wayne” mentality has to be kept in check. In the movies and some people who are gun advocates you are going to pull your gun out mow down the bad guy. Unfortunately the crooks and bad guys don’t follow the script(they either have some sort of drug / alcohol problem or some sort of mental problem that you can’t reason with them.) If you get guns (and more importantly the ammunition) out of the crooks hands by not having as much around, you might be able to fight back and keep the crooks in check. If we start making our public places (schools, malls, etc.) in such a lock down, we will be the ones in prison and the bad guys will be out and about running around. I think that it’s supposed to be the other way around.
Nice comment. It says exactly what I would like to say. The POTUS has armed guards, because there is always a threat. There should not be an expected threat for a six year old to go to school.
ReplyDelete2 anonymous folks who do not speak for me. The President is a man, with a family. His life is no more important than mine. Where does this stop? So important men get protection but the "common" man is disarmed?
ReplyDeleteMy family and my life is just as important to me as his is. I do not get FREE taxpayer paid protection from Secret Service, or in Mayor Bloomberg, and Mayor Emmanuel and Mayor Nutter's case police protection.
I also had a friend who owned a bar in Chester years ago. He was held up 3 times and then on the 4th attempt, he was killed for taking to long to hand over the money. True story!
I have no John Wayne mentality, you would never know I was armed and I would hand over my wallet if needed. BUT, if I felt my life was in danger, I would act.
Thieves are cowards and reasons you list in your story make it apparent that criminals with guns do not receive reasonable sentences from judges. Use a gun in a crime and get 1.5 years? That has wrong all over it.
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ReplyDeleteDanny, this picture is silly. These men are professionals, and they have a reason for carrying guns. No different than police carrying guns, and no one's calling for the elimination of that practice. I'm all for the second amendment, and I would fight for it's continued existance, however the questions here are the availabity of semi auto's, high capacity clips, lack of enforcement of current gun laws due to a shortage of ATF employees, and a failure to properly investigate all gun purchases.
ReplyDeleteMerry Christmas my friend. Hope to see you and Gil in the near future.
First off, Merry Christmas to you my friend!! I hope to see you in the New Year.
ReplyDeleteSo, if I take training equal to the SS, I can carry whatever I want? They carry automatic weapons, I do not.
No. If you were a member of the SS, then it would be ok.
ReplyDeleteLooking forward to it.
Bob