Wednesday, January 16, 2013

Guns for Mine, Not for Thine

11 Comments:

Blogger sooszq said...

This video is ridiculous. People are accidentially killed with guns today. I believe if more people have guns that more people will be killed. President Obama is not being elitist by having his children guarded by the Secret Service. This is standard security for the President of the United States. Grow up.

January 16, 2013 at 5:24 PM 
Blogger Spencerblog said...

Sooszq,
The security team that guards the Sidwell Friends School is not made up of Secret Service agents. The school has its own security force over and above any SS agents that guard the president's family. Read a little more before you comment and you can avoid looking both arrogant and ignorant.

January 17, 2013 at 8:44 PM 
Blogger MediaMike said...

Ouch

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/01/18/no-sidwell-friends-school-has-no-armed-guards/

January 19, 2013 at 2:10 PM 
Blogger Spencerblog said...

Not so ouch. Isn't this the same "fact" checker.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/whoops-politifacts-lie-year-turns-out-be-true_696223.html

January 19, 2013 at 4:56 PM 
Blogger MediaMike said...

Feel free to obfuscate the matter at hand via an ad hominem attack. The Washington Post link is still correct.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem.html

January 19, 2013 at 5:10 PM 
Blogger Spencerblog said...

No obfuscation. Just an observation. And the NRA ad is entirely correct.

The Sidwell Friends School has no fewer than 11 highly trained security guards. In addition its students are protected by the same ARMED Secret Service agents that protect the president's children.

Where's the inaccuracy?


January 19, 2013 at 5:34 PM 
Blogger Spencerblog said...

MediaMike, no response? I hope you didn't consider that an ad hominem attack.

January 20, 2013 at 9:12 AM 
Blogger MediaMike said...

No reply needed really. People can watch your video and read your link. They can also read my link to the Washington Post story which addresses / rebuts your / NRA point of view.

January 20, 2013 at 11:30 AM 
Blogger Spencerblog said...

Fair enough.

January 20, 2013 at 3:24 PM 
Blogger Dannytheman said...

We, the NRA, could point out that this happens in various states. Christies kids in NJ get State Police protection at their school.
Other sitting governors with children all at taxpayers expense.

The hypocrisy is rampant. Mayor Bloomberg, 24 hour armed protection, Mayor Nutter, 24 hour armed protection.

Who decides? If the mayor of Media wants armed protection, can he get it?

Remove Gun Free Zones, allow teachers to carry if they want and add on additional training certification if it makes you feel better. An armed guard and better doors would help.
But MOST schools have many entrances, cafeteria loading docks, etc.
IMEO, just removing the gun free zone and the hint that someone in the school has a gun, janitor, principal, cafeteria lady will stop these attacks. These places are chosen because they are gun free. Cowards will be cowards.



January 21, 2013 at 6:57 AM 
Blogger MediaMike said...

Danny: While your idea might prevent more shootings by shooters entering schools, it also might increase shootings in schools. An increase in guns carried by school staff could increase gun crimes against other staff, students, and parents. Does a bad parent - teacher conference end in a shooting by either party? Do we have staff members threaten groups of students with a gun? Or do we have irresponsible staff members, like this dolt, leave their gun where a student could steal it.


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/newly-hired-guard-leaves-gun-unattended-school-bathroom-article-1.1243009


My own thought is that more guns in schools will make schools less safe, not safer. I doubt you'll agree, but ending the gun free school zone is no slam dunk as perfect policy.

January 21, 2013 at 8:01 AM 

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