Sunday, July 27, 2008

Take Your Sustainability and Shove It!

Peter Huber paints what seems like an accurate picture of the future of carbon energy: It's big and bright, despite what anti-carbon hysterics like Al Gore say.

Developing countries simply won't trade economic progress for the half-baked promise of a cooler earth, more poverty and low growth.

Coal especially will figure prominently in India and China. Australia is exporting coal to all takers. And we have a bunch of it in Pennsylvania but the Democrats and some Republicans are all against digging for it and using it. Go figure.

Money Q:

No serious student of global politics can accept the notion that the world will soon join ranks behind Brussels, Washington and the gloomy computer and its minders. Dar is surely right when he says, "The U.S. and Japan will not tell Asia and Africa to choose poverty, disease, hunger and illiteracy over electricity." Europe might, but nobody will listen. It won't have moral authority until its own citizens are emitting less carbon than Bangladeshis. That won't happen soon.

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Blogger David Diano said...

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July 27, 2008 at 1:12 PM 
Anonymous r said...

No. Huber is right and Dishonest Chicken Little Dave is wrong.
Moving along...

July 27, 2008 at 1:28 PM 
Blogger David Diano said...

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July 27, 2008 at 1:38 PM 
Anonymous r said...

Nah, I was just being dismissive of your tired MO. You seem to think that the more hollow words of blather you post the stronger your arguments. As if quantity directly equalled quality. It doesn't. You seem to forget that you're not talking to dopey non-thinker Libs here, DDD. They're the only ones that works on.

July 27, 2008 at 1:50 PM 
Blogger David Diano said...

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July 27, 2008 at 3:23 PM 
Anonymous r said...

There's some more of that DDD depth.

I gotts say, and I am sure most others would agree, for all your "education" you aren't all that bright. Sure, you can Google and Wiki, copy and paste, but your critical thinking skills are quite lacking. You are in fact proof that education does not equal smarts. I mean, come on, what smart person would advance the childish, emotional, backward idiocy of Libism?

July 27, 2008 at 5:35 PM 
Blogger steve mcdonald said...

diano, your arguement still doesn't explain why Nuclear and clean coal aren't a more attractive route than solar or wind.

Yes, I don't buy into the 30-year cooling period theories of China, India and etc., mainly because its China, India and etc.

July 28, 2008 at 1:58 PM 
Anonymous randal said...

diano, your arguement still doesn't explain why Nuclear and clean coal aren't a more attractive route than solar or wind.

This is because LibDems like Dave are all about obstruction while having no good or viable ideas of their own to offer -just like with the war. They just know they want to pooh-pooh any and all other ideas. Their feelings told them so.
I've yet to hear it explained just why exactly they are so against drilling -off shore or ANWR- when a clear majority of Americans was us to. Heck, even the Eskimos want us to and have sued to be able to!

Not very progressive for "progressives", LibDems. Nor are they very mindful of what the American people for whom they work want.

July 28, 2008 at 4:21 PM 
Blogger David Diano said...

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July 29, 2008 at 1:12 AM 
Blogger steve mcdonald said...

I must be callous to the situation, growing up not to far from Bridesburg in Philadelphia, you know, the Rohm & Haas plants? (Cancer Capital in the 70s and 80s).

Nuclear locations do not bother me, and from seeing the values of the townships surrounding the Limerick Plant up through 2006, I don't think residents are either.

Wind farms are fine (I saw the one up by Pottsville over the weekend), but you and I both know we don't have consistent power generation. Do we settle for brown outs in these cases? I'm not in favor.

July 29, 2008 at 8:51 AM 
Blogger David Diano said...

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July 29, 2008 at 11:12 AM 
Anonymous r said...

With the hundreds of billions spent on Iraq, we could have installed a lot of wind towers. $36 billion in new wind equipment installed in 2007

Cheap, dishonest opportunist false conflation based on hurt feelings.
One has zero to do with the other. If not spent on the war that same money would not have been used for windmills. I don’t recall any spending bill debates weighing funding “for this or that”, ya liar.


Withness the hurt feelings dishonesty of Modern Libism. He just can't resist taking the cheap dishonest jab.
Just once I'd like to see Dishonest Dave Diano bring some intellectual honesty with his "arguments" here. Just once.

July 29, 2008 at 11:48 AM 
Blogger David Diano said...

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July 29, 2008 at 12:13 PM 
Anonymous r said...

I missed no point. Quite simply, once again I caught you spreading your hurt feelings dishonesty.

Besides, what the bitter LibDem Bush-haters often fail to mention is that much of the money spent on the war did not just disappear into thin air but went to pay the salaries of our soldiers –fellow U.S. citizens who will spend it here in our economy. Hardly lost money, that.

July 29, 2008 at 12:41 PM 
Blogger David Diano said...

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July 29, 2008 at 1:08 PM 
Anonymous r said...

Oh, stop. The net effect seems to be it's sending you over the shrill emotional, Petty Hurt Feelings edge. Why are you so emotional about this anyway, DDD? You hate soldiers. Well, U.S. soldiers, anyway.

And let the shrill "4000" go. We have already established that 4000 war dead in a five year war is, while very sad, it's pretty darn good when compared to the 60,000 brave souls lost in the Democrat war Vietnam.

60,000 > 4000

July 29, 2008 at 1:27 PM 
Blogger David Diano said...

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July 29, 2008 at 4:36 PM 
Anonymous r said...

Right. Nixon had to clean up Johnson's mess. And what a big mess it was, what with 58,000 American soldiers lost. And for what? North Vietnam represented no direct threat to us, they didn't attack us, they had no WMDs.

Man, LibDems sure can't run a war right. Maybe they should take lessons from Bush?

So you think the common link is Texas? Geography? Lol... Seems about the usual depths of your views...

July 30, 2008 at 12:33 AM 
Blogger David Diano said...

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July 30, 2008 at 1:59 AM 
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July 30, 2008 at 2:00 AM 
Blogger steve mcdonald said...

I'm not saying that wind is a substitute for ALL the other sources, but rather that you feed wind power into the grid and reduce the use of other sources.

Maybe I'm a few steps ahead of you on this one Dave, my thought is that we're attempting to replace our carbon-plants permanently, which would be spectacular, however, wind will not do that on its own, wind and solar don't replace the production output and consistency of fossil fuels. That's why nuclear should seriously be considered.

I said it before, it's a shame we don't have more opportunities for hoover dam-type projects around the country. The brilliance of their design and intent from 70-80 years ago truly shows today in the renewable and clean energy source out west.

July 30, 2008 at 9:06 AM 
Blogger David Diano said...

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July 30, 2008 at 11:42 AM 
Anonymous r said...

In the Democratic party, there is a name for Texas Democrats: Republicans

There's that true LibDem bumper sticker mentality!

Dave still clinging to and promoting his long away alternative energy non-solutions...

It's time we dismiss the obstructionists and start drilling -even if it's not the ultimate solution. It's what the American People want in this democracy.

Here's a bumper sticker so the Daves can understand:
"Drill Here. Drill Now."

July 30, 2008 at 11:58 AM 

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