Wednesday, September 17, 2008

For What It's Worth...

Consider the source, but a well-known county Republican official tells Spencerblog that in speaking to one local union heavyweight, that while all the union PAC money is all going to Obama, his guys are going to vote for McCain.

Ouch!

12 Comments:

Blogger steve mcdonald said...

I can't say I'm suprised. However, I still believe PA will go blue on Election night in one of those classic 51%-49% scenarios pitting the urban areas against the "T" of the commonwealth (Central PA and Northern areas). Polls are already too close - as I said yesterday, they're presently leaning McCain - but will swap back shortly.

NJ's a guaranteed Democratic Victory - there's too much scum-baggery within the State's politics to go in another direction. If Frank Lautenberg can win his way back into the senate, any democrat can, as long as they live in NJ!

September 17, 2008 at 10:35 AM 
Blogger steve mcdonald said...

yeah - meant to type "surprised". Hey gil , you enabled comment moderation on these things, does it happen to include spell-check? morons like me could use this valuable tool.

September 17, 2008 at 10:49 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is why unions should not be involved in political endorsement and contributions. All the members who will support McCain in the voting booth watch as their union dues go to the other candidate, thanks to the union honchos who decided that’s who they should support. Nothing like financing the opposition’s campaign…
Not to mention the guys who this happens to who didn’t want to join a union in the first place but were forced to in order to get the job. And now they get little to no say in how their extorted dues are used.

Unions belong to a bygone era. They have no place today. They have outlived their usefulness and have become the problem, replacing robber barons as the greedy bullies. Government oversight and labor laws protect workers now where unions used to have to. They are no longer needed.

September 17, 2008 at 11:17 AM 
Blogger David Diano said...

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September 17, 2008 at 12:38 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A treasure trove! (like that which can be found at the Dog Park)

An anonymous county REPUBLICAN official, well gee, Obama might as well just give up now.

I recall a poster here basing their entire anti-Palin “argument” on the alleged words of some unnamed “blogger”. Lol…

Dems that register Republican to get county jobs (or basic services)

This is a myth (aka a Liberal lie) perpetuated by the bitter County Dems since they can’t gain power honestly via the voting booth.
I demand to see the name of ONE person who hasn’t gotten “basic services” due to their political registration.

the shrinking Union labor force (thanks to the GOP)

Another Liberal lie! Unions have fallen out of style because they are an outdated holdover from the past and are no loner needed today. Also because of things like their messed up political games which run counter to their membership, as the topic of this thread points out.

the union guys working the polls for Obama will be helping him as well.

They may as well dance on poles for all the help their going to be for the Affirmative Action Candidate.

September 17, 2008 at 1:37 PM 
Blogger steve mcdonald said...

Shrinking Unions? Dave, would you like to explain how labor unions shrinking in the city of Philadelphia is solely the fault of the GOP, a political party that can't get into the footsteps of city government without the help of city charter minimum representation? How is the Republican Party at Fault if membership levels to one of the City's Carpentry Unions or to the Local #98 Electricians? Do you want to go a step further and blame the republican party for lack of adequate minority labor force as well or is that due to poor recruiting?

Gil did note: "Consider the Source"

September 17, 2008 at 2:58 PM 
Blogger David Diano said...

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September 18, 2008 at 2:22 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No matter how many times a lie is repeated it still does not magically become true, no matter how hard the liar wishes it would.

The Repubs have done no such thing. Greedy and abusive, outdated unions have fallen out of fashion on their own. They didn’t need any help doing it, they did it to themselves.

September 18, 2008 at 2:09 PM 
Blogger steve mcdonald said...

diano, I invite you to get involved in the Philadelphia building trades. The last time ANY republican was anywhere involved was when the majority of trades endorsed Sam Katz for mayor in 2003 (Exception being Johnny Doc's local 98).

Start as an apprentice working on a site, where you'll eventually be given a voter registration from a BA with the "D" already checked.

Union membership has been in decline from a lack of interest and, in certain cases, a "you have to know someone" situation. Unions have more issues in Philadelphia with the need for skilled minority labor as all high profile projects are requiring minimum percentages that they simply can't supply.

September 19, 2008 at 12:07 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And such racial scorekeeping quotas are disgusting and should be outlawed. But those in power in that city -who always see skin color first- are looking out for they brothas.

I’ve known even small contractors doing small jobs in the City of Brothaly Love who have been approached by black and union thugs demanding they hire some unskilled black. Sometimes they’re hired to “watch the truck” so it doesn’t get robbed or vandalized. Such Mob-esque protection and union intimidation and coercion all based on race in 2008 America…
I believe blacks call this things like “equality” and “civil rights” and “economic justice” while Libs call it “progress” and “diversity”. I think most decent people would call it something much different.

September 19, 2008 at 1:53 PM 
Blogger steve mcdonald said...

randal, i'm ok with the required percentages on certain projects - unions in the city were lax for years on recruiting minorities, they should have their feet held to the fire for this one - if they fail on percentages, they can only blame themselves.

I'm more into dave's arguement about republicans undermining unions, which I find to be total b.s.. As a matter of fact, I go the opposite and consider labor unions free labor/mouthpieces/money for the democratic campaigns.

September 23, 2008 at 10:31 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i'm ok with the required percentages on certain projects - unions in the city were lax for years on recruiting minorities, they should have their feet held to the fire for this one - if they fail on percentages, they can only blame themselves.

This is because we’ve been hearing this racial scorekeeping for so long that it has become acceptable to some folks. When really, unions –or anybody else- should not be require or expected to recruit blacks anymore than they should be required or expected to recruit redheads or left-handed people or midgets for some misguide Lib perceived need for “balance/diversity/quota/representative percentage/etc”. Even suppose an employer or union has NO blacks on their rolls. So what? They are not “failing” in any way. Maybe blacks just aren’t interested in that line of work. So long as there are no illegal discriminatory hiring policies in place or underhanded actions going on. All that Lib social engineering is utter crap and should be outlawed. To call it things like “equality” or “civil rights” or anything similar is just dishonest. But, again, it’s been going on for so long that even decent folks have come to think it normal. It’s not.

And certainly enforcing racial “diversity” by coercive intimidation and threats of vandalism is not acceptable.

September 23, 2008 at 8:04 PM 

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