Tuesday, November 15, 2011

Occupy Philly and 1st Amendment

(Posted by Dannytheman)

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."


I am not a lawyer, and you may not agree with me, but I believe the Occupy groups have the God given right to peaceably assemble as mentioned above. No where in the Constitution that I love and support does it say "Peaceably assemble but not more that 60 days"! Lately, people I know have been bad mouthing the occupy groups, and I get it. But they are following an established path that we better be careful not to lose. This First Amendment RIGHT can never, and should not be easily taken away. 

Why am I bringing this up now? I always tell people that Freedom isn't free, that there is always a sacrifice. But, and not coincidentally by the way, the Mayors, who all happen to be Demoncrats, are evicting the Occupy groups. Oakland, Ca., Seattle, Portand and New York are getting the dismantlement treatment. I suspect Philly will be soon. It so happens that it was immediately after the Election cycle is over. Last Tuesday, remember? New Polls out show a majority of folks, most of whom have never been to an occupy site, are now against the cause. Demoncrats love their polls.  Also, an occupy success occupy leaders held off the Unions and outside band wagon jumpers(Marxist, Nazis, communist, etc., etc., that the Demoncrats were hoping to bring their message to light. So, once the Demoncrats saw that the Occupy group could not be bought or thoroughly infiltarted, they used their close connections with the press, immediately after the election, and started hammering the group with lies and embellished statements.

Press news? Knives were found. Do you have a knife when YOU are camping? I sure do.

Unsafe conditions? Candles in a tent. OK, wow you got them now Mayor Squidward. (A.K.A. Mayor Nutter)

My personal favorite ? Hypodermic needles, later found to belong to a diabetic. Really?

But what about the kid pooping in the street in Portland? How disgusting?  He was not associated with the group, but if the poop stinks, right?

So now you have lies about police safety, hazardous conditions and drugs!! But the press, long known by most to be owned by the Demoncrats, is busy buying right in. Asshats!!!


The tide has turned, and I fear the end is near for the Occupy Philly group, but I hope they learn and maneuver to continue to educate themselves on the bigger picture. Baptism by fire is sometimes a good teacher.


They have 2 main beliefs.

1)  Our government must be accountable to us, and corporations must be accountable to the government. We are saying definitively: We no longer live in a democracy, and we refuse to accept that. We seek an end to the collusion between corrupt politicians and corporate criminals, as democratic and capitalist institutions have become conflated. As such we must see major advances in the arena of the relationship between corporations, and people, on par with the amendments which outlawed slavery and assured civil rights to all people regardless of race, sex, or class.


I have explained to them about us being a Republic Democracy, but they won't change. But I can get how they could hate some of these corporate big wigs making millions a year, and they feeling like slaves. They are shut out from the elite ruling class of rich. I think all of us would like to do away with high paid lobbyist, wouldn't we? (Unless you are one, of course)


2) We must be accountable to ourselves. First and foremost, we are calling upon ourselves, and upon one another, to wake up and employ our power as citizens: to participate rather than observe, to raise our strong voices together, rather than complaining feebly in isolation. We cannot 'whine' about the injustices wreaked upon us if we have been complacent and silent in the face of these injustices. We must take responsibility for our own futures – and here at Liberty Plaza, that is exactly what we are doing, by modeling the kind of society in which everyone has a right to live. Here in Liberty Plaza, having lost our sense that we live in a democracy, we are reclaiming its practice.

They want their freedom back, they want true equality, and not in a communist way, not in a progressive way, it's in an entirely new way. I don't agree they will succeed in this, but I respect their freedom to go after their dreams. Some of what the occupy folks support, I can easily get behind, some is way out there IMHO, but I fully respect their God given right to protest and to petition the government for change! I may not agree with them on much, but I fully support their right to do it!

I wouldn't want my freedoms taken away, would you?

God bless Freedom and God bless the Constitution!  


Blogger Bob Bohne said...

Danny - Are you F******* with me? In an earlier post, you implied an OWS connection to the communist party, the Nazi party and others. YOU WERE PERPETRATING THIS THEORY! Now you post this "They want their freedom back, they want true equality, and not in a communist way, not in a progressive way, it's in an entirely new way." Earlier you were insinuating in print and cartoon that the press was hammering the Tea party and giving OWS a pass. Now your being critical of the "DEMONCRAT" press for being to hard on OWS. Make up your mind Danny! I got to tell you Danny. Nobody was harder on these kids than FOX news. Why aren't you going after them? You're starting to sound like Jake. Now lets look at your "facts". Not all of these mayors are Democrats. Bloomberg is an ex Republican, now an Independent. The Mayor of Oakland revealed that mayors from 18 city's conferred before making a decision on how to handle this. I doubt very much if they were all Democrats. And Danny, it's a damn good thing you weren't stopped by the cops while visiting OWS. What would they have found on you? And how would that have gone over in the press? Hmmmm.

November 15, 2011 at 7:48 PM 
Blogger Bob Bohne said...

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November 15, 2011 at 8:05 PM 
Blogger Bob Bohne said...

Danny - One more thing. Richard Trumka say's organized labor is solidly behind OWS.

November 15, 2011 at 8:05 PM 
Blogger Dannytheman said...

Actually I posted on where they were getting their funding. As I say in the thread, I don't agree with them, but they have a right to be there.

Bloomberg was a lifetime demoncrat until 2001, Bob. When he couldn't get the demoncratic nod, he bought into the Republican party, and they even kicked his butt to the curb forcing him to buy his position as mayor as an independent. He is part of the problem. He buys what he wants, people, votes, more power. AssHat Emeritus!

Check the 18, Bob, ALL demoncrats. All!!

November 15, 2011 at 8:08 PM 
Blogger Bob Bohne said...

Danny - Bloomberg is an Independent, but if you want to call him a Democrat, I can't stop you. I'm still trying to figure out why you are blaming the "Demoncrat Press" for being tough on these kids, but you make no mention of FOX. I was watching Hannity demonize these kids just the other day. I guess in Danny's world, when it's FOX, we keep quiet, but when it's the "Demoncrat" press, we hop on the computer and slam them. And what about the cartoon Danny? What were you trying to say with that? This post seems to contradict the cartoon.

November 15, 2011 at 9:32 PM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look what happened to the WWIvets who marched on Washington

November 15, 2011 at 11:59 PM 
Blogger Bob Bohne said...

The Bonus marchers. One of Douglas McArthur's not so finest moments.

November 16, 2011 at 6:08 AM 
Blogger jake said...

Let me get this straight...
You have a cup of coffee with the Occupy brats and all the sudden you're fired up about their Constitutional rights.
But JoePa gives us 40+ years of honor and integrity, and you want to crucify him.
Just not seeing it.

November 16, 2011 at 11:51 AM 
Blogger Bob Bohne said...

Danny - You're doing a Mitt Romney on us here. You're flippin and floppin like a fish out of water.
I'll say this much for Jake. When he makes a mistake, he sticks to it!

November 16, 2011 at 1:33 PM 
Blogger Dannytheman said...

I thank you for your feedback, but I am always concerned about the Constitutional rights of everyone!

You should be, too.

And Jake, it was a lot more than coffee.

November 16, 2011 at 6:28 PM 
Blogger Spencerblog said...

As far as I know, there is no constitutional right for squatters to move into a public park or onto public property and start living there.

To say that getting them to move along violates their First Amendment rights is like saying you can't arrest a trespasser if he is spouting his political beliefs.

Pure nonsense.

November 16, 2011 at 11:22 PM 
Blogger Bob Bohne said...

Hey, Spencers got a nice place. Maybe we could occupy that for a couple of weeks. Or at least until Mrs. Spencer kicks us out. Bring cigars, Jack, beer and chips.

November 17, 2011 at 7:10 AM 
Blogger Dannytheman said...

I am more upset that Cliff Wilson agrees with me, than any nonsense on here. LOL!!

November 17, 2011 at 7:21 AM 

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